How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

[Titty Meat]

LOL Allen Bailey made 10 tackles and 1 sack last year.


Really that's the standard of a good pick?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Toad King

He's 11th out of 32.

That's OK. #3 pick should be a lot better, and not be a goddamn 5tec. Maybe if he was the 11th best at a different position.

I think he will be better this year, but agree about the 5 tech part.


I think we have some guys who can be difference makers or atleast have the skill to become that.


Guys like a Baldwin or Houston.


Some guys, like Belcher or Lewis, or Arenas aren't going to be difference makers. But that's ok.


That's why I told Aturnis, I'd give Poe (who hasn't played a down yet), Baldwin, Bailey, Hudson, and next years first for Cam Newton.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

LOL Allen Bailey made 10 tackles and 1 sack last year.


Really that's the standard of a good pick?

A second round defensive lineman, it's ok.

[BossChief]

Yeah, you're right.

Houston looks like he isnt "on pace to be a difference maker"

Neither does Hudson.

Or Bailey.

Try to keep in mind the lockout when trying to figure out what "on pace to be a difference maker" means for a rookie.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Yeah, you're right.

Houston looks like he isnt "on pace to be a difference maker"

Neither does Hudson.

Or Bailey.

Try to keep in mind the lockout when trying to figure out what "on pace to be a difference maker" means for a rookie.

Hurt Cam alot.

[Hammock Parties]

It's kind of a bullshit term since they could all bust at this point.

Here's what on pace to be a difference maker looks like, and **** the lockout:



To date, Pioli has drafted no one with that impact. He badly needs a home run like that.

[O.city]

They could all bust and some likely will. Thats life in the NFL.



It's made alot easier when you have a franchise qb in place. Spinning the wheels til then. I will say, Pioli has brought the roster along from where it was in say 08. But, where the hell else was there to go?


It's why, IMO, he went the wrong way with the qb. If you are gonna try and build a roster then put the qb in, you are behind.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by O.city

And to answer you again Aturnis, yes I would trade all of that for Cam.

In hindsight yes, but without knowing?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Toad King

It's kind of a bullshit term since they could all bust at this point.

Here's what on pace to be a difference maker looks like, and **** the lockout:



To date, Pioli has drafted no one with that impact. He badly needs a home run like that.

Berry?

[Hammock Parties]

Titus Young says "lockout?"

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by BossChief

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8/20/2011: Signed an eight-year, $128.5 million contract. The deal contains $50 million guaranteed, including a $10 million signing bonus and first-year roster bonus of $8 million. Fitzgerald is eligible for annual $250,000 workout bonuses in years two through eight. 2012: $5 million (+ $6 million roster bonus due 3/31), 2013: $5 million (+ $10 million option bonus due 3/15), 2014: $12.75 million, 2015: $8 million (+ $8 million roster bonus), 2016: $15 million, 2017-2018: $14.75 million, 2019: Free Agent

3/13/2012: Signed an eight-year, $150.5 million contract. The deal contains $60 million guaranteed, including a $16 million signing bonus, all of Johnson's base salaries in years one through four, and $9 million of his 2016 salary. 2012: $1.25 million (+ $4.5 million roster bonus), 2013: $5 million (+ $20 million option bonus), 2014: $5 million, 2015: $12.5 million, 2016: $15.95 million, 2017: $16.5 million, 2018: $17 million ($3.5 million guaranteed if team "buys back" final two years), 2019: $18.25 million, 2020: Free Agent

I wouldn't give Bowe anything in the neighborhood those deals.

It would be stupid.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Toad King

We underestimated a QB who threw 23 picks?

He's better than Cassel, that's all that matters.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by O.city

Berry?

No. Come on.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I wouldn't give Bowe anything in the neighborhood those deals.

It would be stupid.

He deserves 80 percent of Fitz's deal.

[Hammock Parties]

Lockout?