Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick

[houstonwhodat]

According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft.

April 15th:

"The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick."

"It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February."

"No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of."



http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I was never a fan of Ponder and Jacksonville is just a shithole of a team to get drafted by. No talent.

If Gabbert were in this draft, I'd love to see what Andy Reid could do with him.

I'm a Mizzou fan & I would have shit a brick if Pioli drafted him.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by O.city

Some of these threads are going to be maniacal in a few years to look back at. Hell, in about a week and a half they will be.

So many of them will be bumped whether Geno is great or a bust.

[RunKC]

Some FACTS for the Geno crowd who say "oh well Johnny Football was a big part of Luke Joeckel's success."

34% of Tavon Austin's passes were screens as seen below.





Of course Austin caught a high number of screens. Even after adjusting for those sweep screens, approximately 34% of his receptions were screens. This is higher than any wide receiver in this class.

Including screens, 78% of his receptions were within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. This seems high but is actually lower than Keenan Allen’s 86% within the same zones.

Although low, Austin’s 7% of receptions past 20 yards isn’t the lowest in the class. Keenan Allen only caught 3.33% of his passes past 20 yards and Cordarrelle Patterson only caught 4% past 20 yards.

http://secondroundstats.com/2013/02/...akdown-austin/

While not on this chart, Austin averaged 7.3 yards after the catch in all zones. The receiver with the next highest yards after the catch is Stedman Bailey, Austin’s former teammate. That’s an incredibly high number.

And here's this.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/ta...e/tavon-austin

West Virginia Passing By Target This Season
Austin Bailey
Targets 140 141
Rec 110 106
Yards 1,259 1,501
YAC 909 553
TD 12 23 <<
>> Leads FBS

JFC 72% of Tavon Austin's receiving yards were YAC.

[O.city]

There damn near isn't a player in the first round that you can't look at and think if you miss out on them, there isn't a guy I can get in the 3 round that could be just as good.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Some FACTS for the Geno crowd who say "oh well Johnny Football was a big part of Luke Joeckel's success."

34% of Tavon Austin's passes were screens as seen below.





Of course Austin caught a high number of screens. Even after adjusting for those sweep screens, approximately 34% of his receptions were screens. This is higher than any wide receiver in this class.

Including screens, 78% of his receptions were within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. This seems high but is actually lower than Keenan Allen’s 86% within the same zones.

Although low, Austin’s 7% of receptions past 20 yards isn’t the lowest in the class. Keenan Allen only caught 3.33% of his passes past 20 yards and Cordarrelle Patterson only caught 4% past 20 yards.

http://secondroundstats.com/2013/02/...akdown-austin/

While not on this chart, Austin averaged 7.3 yards after the catch in all zones. The receiver with the next highest yards after the catch is Stedman Bailey, Austin’s former teammate. That’s an incredibly high number.

And here's this.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/ta...e/tavon-austin

West Virginia Passing By Target This Season
Austin Bailey
Targets 140 141
Rec 110 106
Yards 1,259 1,501
YAC 909 553
TD 12 23 <<
>> Leads FBS

JFC 72% of Tavon Austin's receiving yards were YAC.

How does this determine whether Joeckel was helped out by Johnny Football?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

If Geno is Luck why does nobody want the #1 Pick?

Stop.

Scroll back down to my post.

Hit yourself in the face with a crowbar three times.

Re-read my post.

Try again.

[O.city]

I'm in no means a "Geno fanboy" whatever that means, but I'd venture to say that most college WR's have stats somewhat similar to that. It's just the way the game is.


Also, if someone were to say that Wes Welkers numbers were at that level, what would we say about Tom Brady?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

How does this determine whether Joeckel was helped out by Johnny Football?

I'm just tired of people saying another good prospect looked good because of a teammate but yet they ignore their star prospect whose teammates clearly made him look good.

The numbers are very telling.

[O.city]

So the fact taht Joeckel is a LT coming from a spread offense wont' effect him at all in adjusting to the NFL?

[DTLB58]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You've seriously gone full reerun.

Tell me why Geno doesn't deserve to be picked by the Chiefs at #1.

I'm waiting.

The #1 overall pick (QB) usually isn't coming off a 7-6 season. One with 5 straight losses at one point, loss of his bowl game, 78 sacks in his college career and 32 fumbles.
IF those were Cassel's #'s coming out of USC do you think we would be jumping for joy for him? No, you would say he can't lead his team through the tough stretches of a season, he holds on to the ball to long and he has small hands.

[RunKC]

Also something to note: Stedman Bailey is the best WR in this draft with an astounding 6.24 YAC average.

That's insane.

[B14ckmon]

One of the SoC douchenozzles going up against Pen(DumbAsShit)Book

This is awesome.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by DTLB58

The #1 overall pick (QB) usually isn't coming off a 7-6 season. One with 5 straight losses at one point, loss of his bowl game, 78 sacks in his college career and 32 fumbles.
IF those were Cassel's #'s coming out of USC do you think we would be jumping for joy for him? No, you would say he can't lead his team through the tough stretches of a season, he holds on to the ball to long and he has small hands.

Well, we can point to the fact that despite West Virginia having one of the worst defenses in college football, an offensive line that was a sieve and losing the starting RB early in the season while competing in a conference that had five teams in the top 25 at one point or another during the 2012 season, Geno still managed to lead his team to a post season Bowl game.

As well, whether one wants to or doesn't want to consider the horrendous offensive line that he had to play behind or the craptactular WVU defense that forced him to play behind from most of the season, Geno still managed to put up statistics that rivaled the previous seasons Heisman trophy winner and the guy that many said was the best QB prospect since John Elway.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Also something to note: Stedman Bailey is the best WR in this draft with an astounding 6.24 YAC average.

That's insane.

So are you of the opinion that Geno had nothing to do with those WR's YAC numbers?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

So are you of the opinion that Geno had nothing to do with those WR's YAC numbers?

In most cases yes. I saw a lot of screen passes that were taken for a ton of YAC and the numbers are proving it.