Mizzou Basketball - Page 184

**Saul Good** · 09:06 PM

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KC_Connection · 02-21-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

KSU has clearly regressed as the season has gone along, so that's the first aspect that needs to be considered. KSU is absolutely inept on offense right now. It's hilarious that you thump your chest over ku's defense in that game - did you even watch?

They just try to throw it at the basket and box out in hopes of getting second chance points off rebounds. They would look terrible on offense against any other team in the Big 12. And despite KSU's awful offense and getting some absolutely ridiculous calls (7-10 point swing at minimum), you guys still almost gave the guy away with Tyshawn pissing down his leg.

KSU didn't look so terrible today, did they?

That, of course, is the difference that defense can make.

**petegz28** · 02-21-2012, 09:51 PM

Miss St holding onto a 7 pt lead with just over 6 minutes left

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 02-21-2012, 09:59 PM

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The K-State loss was Missouri's first home defeat of the season and just the fourth career loss at Mizzou Arena for the Tigers' 5-man senior class. It also kept Missouri from the best start in school history. The previous two Missouri teams to start 25-2, in 1990 and 1994 under coach Norm Stewart, also lost.

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WilliamTheIrish · 02-21-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

KSU didn't look so terrible today, did they?

That, of course, is the difference that defense can make.

You beat me to that post. The Qatz are not a bad shooting team. They hit a stretch where they struggled just holding onto the ball. And I really think it just shook the entire team. Even Rodney was struggling. Frank kind of shelled up and decided if they were going to lose it would be lose while playing hard nose defense, until the shots came back.

But a big road win like the one Saturday at BU can sustain a team for a few games.

But in this case, I think the Cats just present matchup problems for MU and Frank exploited the shit out of them.

DJ's left nut · 02-21-2012, 10:10 PM

Well, we earned that ass-kicking.

If you show up to a sold-out arena and that's the best defensive intensity you can muster for the first 25 minutes, you deserve to get run out of your own barn. And if the extent of your offensive strategy for the last 8 minutes of the game is to start launching 3s regardless of merit...well that's not likely to help you much either.

In all honesty, if this was the game they had planned for Saturday, they needed this loss. If they play like that against Kansas they'll lose by 30. That was an effort loss, IMO and was pretty much completely unacceptable for a team that had designs on a 1-seed and a conference title. Yeah, K-State's a nice defensive team, but 68 points should be enough to beat them.

Mizzou didn't play with any urgency until they got to the point that they had zero margin for error. Their lackluster effort through the first 25 made it impossible for them to weather the storm at the end when the shots weren't falling.

The entire 40 minutes matter, kids. Try to remember that on Saturday.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 02-21-2012, 10:13 PM

sold out? where was everyone?

Pitt Gorilla · 02-21-2012, 10:14 PM

Man, I didn't get to see much of the game, but in what I did see, the Cats looked good. KSU shot and passed the ball really well. Hats off to them.

**DeezNutz** · 02-21-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

sold out? where was everyone?

Behind the bench? Isn't this rehashed weekly? Suite access.

ThatRaceCardGuy · 02-21-2012, 10:17 PM

Congrats to KSU . Missouri had an off night ...it happens.

KC_Connection · 02-21-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

You beat me to that post. The Qatz are not a bad shooting team. They hit a stretch where they struggled just holding onto the ball. And I really think it just shook the entire team. Even Rodney was struggling. Frank kind of shelled up and decided if they were going to lose it would be lose while playing hard nose defense, until the shots came back.

KU can also make a lot of offenses look bad. Their defense is one of the best in the country. It was wrong to say that KSU was regressing or that they couldn't score. KSU's strength may be defense, but they're not abysmal offensively.

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But in this case, I think the Cats just present matchup problems for MU and Frank exploited the shit out of them.

Yeah, that's what I saw. You'd think Scott Drew could have done much the same vs. MU with all the talented bigs they have, but of course, he's Scott Drew.

Al Bundy · 02-21-2012, 10:28 PM

MU is going to get drilled on Saturday, and it will be a blow out from the beginning.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 02-21-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

KU can also make a lot of offenses look bad. Their defense is one of the best in the country. It was wrong to say that KSU was regressing or that they couldn't score. KSU's strength may be defense, but they're not abysmal offensively.

Yeah, that's what I saw. You'd think Scott Drew could have done much the same vs. MU with all the talented bigs they have, but of course, he's Scott Drew.

it was much more than the KU game. We were terrible for several.

**KcMizzou** · 02-21-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

MU players have no class.

Between this and the "Marcus Denmon is a garbage human being." I'd like you to expand on both. WTF makes you feel that way?

DJ's left nut · 02-21-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

it was much more than the KU game. We were terrible for several.

Agreed.

Mizzou's defense took K-State's normal game and made them look like 80 pt scorers. Against a good defense, they'd have still been in the mid-60s, though.

The games they were playing during that stretch of futility were games where they wouldn't have managed 60 even against a JuCo lineup.

**KcMizzou** · 02-21-2012, 10:41 PM

KSU, you beat our asses twice. Solidly. Congrats.

We're a bad match-up for a lot of teams... you're a bad match-up for us.

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