Really hard not to like Matt Cassel.

[Direckshun]

I can't help it. He is everything I like in a quarterback other than his inability to be consistently really, really good.

Kind of a ****ed up thing to say. But he's such a good representative for this team. He blocks when run plays swing around, and blocks really, really enthusiastically for a QB. He sticks up for all his teammates, and has never thrown them under a bus. He's got occasional throws when his protection is strong that do genuinely look like brilliant darts into the chest of a receiver.

He's not a drama queen, doesn't crave attention. Gives his time up for charity, married to a camera shy college sweetheart who as it turns out is the leggiest brunette this side of the Atlantic.

He's really fiery, even having that awesome exchange of words with Haley last year. He'll get in a fight, even a physical fight for the guys in red. He ****s around with his teammates on the sidelines and knows the playbook like a mother****er.

Sure, he's got the beta-male thing going on, but he's not flawless.

And we all know it: if Matt Cassel was even a pretty good Pro Bowl talent, he'd be your favorite Chief.



At 4:50, and at 5:14, two examples of Cassel putting his body out there for a teammate, in this case Jamaal Charles.

Seriously, folks. He's done nothing wrong but work his ass off for this team, do everything it takes to win, and be physically limited in what he can do.

He was one of the reasons Baldwin was able to turn it around decently last year. Cassel and Baldwin were BFFs in the preseason, and when the whole locker room could have turned on Baldwin after the Thomas Jones debacle, I'm willing to bet the first thing Cassel did in Baldwin's first practice back was throw him the ball. Cassel might have been the life saver around Baldwin's locker room rep.

I can understand being frustrated with Cassel. I know you all are too. But there is no reason to do anything but just hope the guy gets better.

Stop rooting for injury. Stop calling him an asshole.

Because he's a really ****ing good dude, and a decent quarterback. He's been good to this franchise in a lot of ways, and if he was better on the field you guys wouldn't be able to stop sucking him off.

We're all hoping Stanzi gets a shot this year, and I've been consistently mocking QBs to the Chiefs in round 1 next year.

But get your head on straight. Root for Matt Cassel.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by bboss4

Felt compelled to waste time signing in to reply to this abomination of a post by the clueless OP. You are a ******* idiot. Back in 2011 he made a waitress cry in Applebee's bc he didn't get a refill when she came back to his table(Pro Bowl must have really got to his head). Yeah, great dude. Who gives a **** if you think he's a good guy, where does that get you in the league? He's a horrible quarterback and I'm baffled there are some out there who still try and convince themselves he can take this team anywhere.

I heard he apologized tried to give her a money shot but overthrew the target.

[themanwithnoname]

OP, I was trying to figure out who it is that you remind me of. Its Peter King. You've got some football knowledge, but then you kinda come off as a bumbling, well:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Never go full reerun.

So what is your excuse?

I'm sure its been pointed out to you already but you managed to completely nullify your argument basically immediately.

inability to be consistently really, really good

I think you mean his ability to be consistently not very good at all. Unfortunately for you, that's the most important and really only part that matters. Nothing wrong with finding people that meet those other criteria, but you do not excuse them not having football talent because of it. Too bad Cassel didn't do us a favor and give up football to go work with charity. That way he can be an even better guy (imagine all the profundity that could be spewed about him by the likes of Peter King), and the Chiefs could have tried to find a QB that doesn't suck.

[WilliamTheIrish]

If sports has become that impersonal for you, that soulless and pointless, nothing more than finding cogs for a machine whose gears you care nothing for, is a sign that this isn't a healthy approach to the sport.

I'm not sure why this would surprise you. Fans don't get the opportunity to know the players in the way they did in previous generations. Players are pretty isolated in every sport now.
And they change teams so often and so quickly that it doesn't pay to get attached. I cheer for the Chiefs uniform. Rarely do I cheer for the player in the jersey anymore. The last jersey I purchased was a Tony G when he was a rookie. If I were to purchase one today it would be an Otis Taylor or a Willie Lanier.

I wasn't always this way, but the entire culture of the game/player has changed significantly over the years. Kinda weird I know, but true. For me at least.

[otherstar]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Who cares if he's a good guy?

I'll take a team of convicted felons if they win a Super Bowl.

You might as well just watch the Raiders then....

Except that they won't win a SB anytime soon either.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Who cares if he's a good guy?

I'll take a team of convicted felons if they win a Super Bowl.

Worked for one good guy!

Cassel + felons = championship!

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by milkman

I have always said that character matters.

But character without talent is useless.

I don't give a rat's ass if Cassel is the nicest mother****er to ever walk the planet, he's still a useless piece of shit on the field.

Yep... I'd probably like him if he was the quarterback at Kansas. He couldn't win a starting job at a real football school, he tries real hard and he's a nice guy... can't expect much more when you're watching Kansas football.

This is the NFL though... a team in a quarterback league that has decent talent otherwise and hasn't won shit in almost 2 decades. And if last year didn't make it obvious enough, there's no telling when the window of opportunity will close for the most talented players on the team.

This isn't college or Team USA... they're professional athletes making more money than most of us will see in a lifetime, and it costs over $100 if you want to see them live for 3 hours. Trying hard is the absolutely minimun expectation. I wouldn't go as far as saying I'd enjoy watching a team of felons win a SB, but I'd certainly put up with some prima donnas over a bunch of nice guy who can't win a playoff game.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Bingo.

Your point is, you don't give two shits about character.

So you can retract that bingo any time you wish.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Your point is, you don't give two shits about character.

So you can retract that bingo any time you wish.

I don't care about character if it comes at the cost of talent.

You're never going to field a winner out of 53 Boy Scouts.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

I'm not sure why this would surprise you. Fans don't get the opportunity to know the players in the way they did in previous generations. Players are pretty isolated in every sport now.
And they change teams so often and so quickly that it doesn't pay to get attached. I cheer for the Chiefs uniform. Rarely do I cheer for the player in the jersey anymore. The last jersey I purchased was a Tony G when he was a rookie. If I were to purchase one today it would be an Otis Taylor or a Willie Lanier.

I wasn't always this way, but the entire culture of the game/player has changed significantly over the years. Kinda weird I know, but true. For me at least.

Some people precipitated the fall.

OTW would probably root for Michael Vick if he ended up in a Chiefs uniform and took us to the Super Bowl.

If all you care about is the score on the scoreboard when it comes to sports, then I have no idea what you're doing as a Chiefs fan. That's not a True Fan argument or anything, it's just a mystery to me, if all you care about is objective success, locate a team that plays to your interests. The Chiefs haven't won a Super Bowl in decades and don't build their team the way OTW prefers.

Find a team that does it the way you like them doing it. Stop immersing yourself in a fanbase you hate, under a GM you despise, rooting for players you know won't seal the deal.

If the bottom line is all you care about, things like character, integrity and loyalty to the team... mean nothing.

Now, it's important to note that I'm not actively encouraging OTW to root for another team. I want him to stay a Chiefs fan. I just want him to screw his head back on.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I don't care about character if it comes at the cost of talent.

You're never going to field a winner out of 53 Boy Scouts.

Find me somebody in this thread who is advocating that.

You're problem is you're going to extreme opposite side of the spectrum.

[okcchief]

Yeah, not having any problems hating Matt Cassel.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Some people precipitated the fall.

OTW would probably root for Michael Vick if he ended up in a Chiefs uniform and took us to the Super Bowl.

Why wouldn't I?

Dude made a mistake, has done his time, and turned his life around.

I'd root for Ben Roethlisberger as well.


Did you root for Jared Allen? Larry Johnson?

I know the answer is yes, which makes you a ****ing hypocrite.

[SAUTO]

I was one of the only guys here advocating signing Vick.

Iirc otwp fought me tooth and nail on it.

Not because of the legal shit though
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[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I was one of the only guys here advocating signing Vick.

Iirc otwp fought me tooth and nail on it.

Not because of the legal shit though
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My issue with signing Vick at the time was that he had been out of football for nearly three years, IIRC.

Now that he's paid his price and gotten his life on track, who wouldn't want him?

Who wouldn't want Roethlisberger?

And again, who here rooted for Allen and Johnson?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

My issue with signing Vick at the time was that he had been out of football for nearly three years, IIRC.

Now that he's paid his price and gotten his life on track, who wouldn't want him?

I still don't believe Vick has the necessary tools to lead his team to the SB.

I believe that he has paid the price for his mistakes off the field, and is working his ass off to further atone, so from that standpoint, I would have no issue with him as a Chief.