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Old 04-15-2013, 12:03 PM  
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Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick

According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft.

April 15th:

"The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick."

"It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February."

"No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of."



http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down

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Old 04-15-2013, 09:11 PM   #271
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:12 PM   #272
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You've seriously gone full reerun.

Tell me why Geno doesn't deserve to be picked by the Chiefs at #1.

I'm waiting.
Why aren't QB needy teams scraping and crawling up to #1 overall, especially after the Chiefs have let it be known they're willing to move out?
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:14 PM   #273
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Lets just get it over with, trade down with Philly to 4, get a 2 this year and a 2 next year, take Sheldon Richardson and move one.


Oh and try and pry our DC from the Browns after we got ****ed on that one.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:14 PM   #274
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And I ask again, what was he supposed to say? You think in the depths of his mind he really woudln't rather be sitting on what Matt Ryan is today, than Jake Long?


I don't know. I'm not in his head.

You can't say either way because we don't know what Matt Ryan would have turned into there. He's had a pretty great situation there in Atlanta.
I can tell you that what he said directly contradicts what Buckweath said when he was trying to tell us what was in Ireland's head. For some reason, you didn't bother to point out that we can't know these things (since we aren't in Ireland's head) to Buckweath.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:14 PM   #275
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The most QB needy teams have made it abundantly clear that no QB is worth their pick.

KC, OAK, ARI and BUF all signed veteran QB's.

We even heard BUF's GM say that this QB class isn't that good at all.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:16 PM   #276
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I can tell you that what he said directly contradicts what Buckweath said when he was trying to tell us what was in Ireland's head.
And I'm saying it doesn't really matter what's in Irelands head, he's a moron and a shit GM.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:16 PM   #277
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The most QB needy teams have made it abundantly clear that no QB is worth their pick.

KC, OAK, ARI and BUF all signed veteran QB's.

We even heard BUF's GM say that this QB class isn't that good at all.
Same with Arizona. Arians said no QB Wowed him.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:16 PM   #278
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Why aren't QB needy teams scraping and crawling up to #1 overall, especially after the Chiefs have let it be known they're willing to move out?
Beats me.

Perhaps the same reason that 23 teams passed on Aaron Rogers. That Tom Brady lasted until the 6th round. That Warren Moon went undrafted.

Perhaps the same reason that you usually don't see teams going bat shit crazy about trading up into the top three every single year with the exception of last year with the Redskins, and we all know that Dan Snyder and Mike Shanahan are, in fact, both bat shit crazy.
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The most QB needy teams have made it abundantly clear that no QB is worth their pick.

KC, OAK, ARI and BUF all signed veteran QB's.

We even heard BUF's GM say that this QB class isn't that good at all.
Then we shouldn't waste a pick on a QB in any round, right? When there are other potential better players available, why take a player at a position that isn't very good?
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Perhaps the same reason that 23 teams passed on Aaron Rogers.
Bullshit.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:17 PM   #281
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Well, we can point to the fact that despite West Virginia having one of the worst defenses in college football, an offensive line that was a sieve and losing the starting RB early in the season while competing in a conference that had five teams in the top 25 at one point or another during the 2012 season, Geno still managed to lead his team to a post season Bowl game.

As well, whether one wants to or doesn't want to consider the horrendous offensive line that he had to play behind or the craptactular WVU defense that forced him to play behind from most of the season, Geno still managed to put up statistics that rivaled the previous seasons Heisman trophy winner and the guy that many said was the best QB prospect since John Elway.
Even though it wasn't directed at me, you asked why shouldn't he be the Chiefs pick, not why should he. So I focused on the neg not the positive.

Listen, I don't hate the guy. If the Chiefs some how obtain Geno I am not going to go ape shit and be all ticked off. I said when the off-season started I wanted 3 new QB's so that would be mission accomplished.

I'm just not a huge Geno/Alex Lover or Hater of either.
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Lets just get it over with, trade down with Philly to 4, get a 2 this year and a 2 next year, take Sheldon Richardson and move one.


Oh and try and pry our DC from the Browns after we got ****ed on that one.
I'm willing to give our DC a shot. I love it that he wants to attack.

That article in the star was very promising. I want us to have blitzes and DL pushing upfield instead of rarely blitzing and using that "read and react" bullshit that Romeo used and it seems like we're going to do just that.
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Lets just get it over with, trade down with Philly to 4, get a 2 this year and a 2 next year, take Sheldon Richardson and move one.

Oh and try and pry our DC from the Browns after we got ****ed on that one.
Call me crazy, but I'm not overly excited about drafting a guy in the top ten who quit on his team during a game.
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I'm willing to give our DC a shot. I love it that he wants to attack.

That article in the star was very promising. I want us to have blitzes and DL pushing upfield instead of rarely blitzing and using that "read and react" bullshit that Romeo used.
I wouldn't get too fired up about articles.

At this point, it sounds good, but all we really have to go on is his past history as a DC, which isn't exactly sparkling.
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