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duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

duncan_idaho · 12-03-2013, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Franklin/Paxton/Walker/Hultzen

Which of these gets a deal done for Butler assuming we aren't doing a salary dump?

Would have to be Paxton or Walker. Hultzen is hurt and won't pitch until Aug or Sept.

Nightfyre · 12-03-2013, 07:30 PM

I say Paxton and Walker - bitches.

penbrook · 12-03-2013, 07:33 PM

Rockies sign Justin Morneau.

Sure-Oz · 12-03-2013, 07:39 PM

Ellsbury for 140 mill or so....no way they sign beltran. They need that money for Cano...also they are still eyeing Choo.

Sure-Oz · 12-03-2013, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I say Paxton and Walker - bitches.

Yes please

Jerm · 12-03-2013, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

And what else?

Franklin not nearly enough on his own.

Yeah I should've framed the question better...Dutton was speculating he'd be the start of a possible framework for a deal.

**lewdog** · 12-03-2013, 07:46 PM

KC Royals Spring Training announced! Tickets to go on sale December 9th.

Any of you coming down for it this year? I'd like to make it a point to meet up with anyone who will be in attendance. I briefly met KC United last year, but my parents were in town so it limited my availability. They aren't making it this year though.

It's a great time. I met almost all the players last year.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/spr...ve.jsp?c_id=kc

Unsmooth-Moment · 12-03-2013, 07:54 PM

With Ellsbury going to the Yanks shoudn't we be the favorite for Beltran?

Sure-Oz · 12-03-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment

With Ellsbury going to the Yanks shoudn't we be the favorite for Beltran?

I'd think so...Mariners and others may have interest.

Sure-Oz · 12-03-2013, 08:05 PM

Per Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: Beltran not close with any team yet. Still making visits. #Royals made three-year offer early in process. Beltran was in KC today.

Sure-Oz · 12-03-2013, 08:07 PM

@Ken_Rosenthal: #Yankees likely out on Beltran, but #Rangers still could be factor along with #Royals. #Mariners, too, but would need to add others first.

**alnorth** · 12-03-2013, 08:11 PM

We're probably Beltran's "safety school". He would love it if another team that is competitive beats our offer, but he'll fall back on KC and hope for a playoff run if no one else matches.

Sure-Oz · 12-03-2013, 08:17 PM

@JimBowdenESPNxm: If Ellsbury gets 7/153 from NYY….then Cano getting 8/190-200 NYY…..Beltran not going to Bos or Sea…so it's either KC, NYY or TX

Nightfyre · 12-03-2013, 08:20 PM

So the Yankees and Dodgers continue and buy their way into contention. Baseball needs an economics overhaul.

SPchief · 12-03-2013, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

So the Yankees and Dodgers continue and buy their way into contention. Baseball needs an economics overhaul.

How did those two do in the playoffs last year?

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1390308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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