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Old 10-15-2011, 08:13 AM  
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Cassel, a statistical breakdown
http://www.homeofthechiefs.com/2011/...view/#more-505

I don't usually bring things from the other forum I'm registered with, but I thought this was as comprehensive an analysis of Cassel against bad teams vs. good teams as I've seen.

The guy isn't much of a writer, so he can make a long read even longer, but I think it's worth it.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:50 AM   #16
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I by no means support Cassel, but don't most QB's benefit from their recievers YAC? I know the year Brady put up super numbers both Moss and Welker had sick YAC numbers.
Every QB does benefit from yac.

The question then becomes, how much of yac is the result of the QB getting the ball to the receiver accurately and giving him the opportunity to get those extra yards, and how much is the receivers making plays on their own?

Someone would have to really put in a lot of work to break that down.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:53 AM   #17
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Then there's the question of how often is the QB going downfield as opposed to tossing the ball short and asking the receiver to run after catch?
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:54 AM   #18
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So Cassel still sucks right?
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:55 AM   #19
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Then there's the question of how often is the QB going downfield as opposed to tossing the ball short and asking the receiver to run after catch?
Cassel might have had negative passing yards through the first 5 weeks, if YAC were taken completely out, with the amount of times he threw behind the LoS.
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Knew it was high, but didn't realize it was this high.

75% of Cassel's attempts have traveled less than 10 yards in the air.

21.4% of Cassel's attempts have been thrown behind the LOS.

2011 numbers.
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:03 AM   #21
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Then there's the question of how often is the QB going downfield as opposed to tossing the ball short and asking the receiver to run after catch?
Nothing new.

Hell, Pats fans complained about this when he was filling in there...
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Knew it was high, but didn't realize it was this high.

75% of Cassel's attempts have traveled less than 10 yards in the air.

21.4% of Cassel's attempts have been thrown behind the LOS.

2011 numbers.
That's pathetic.

Where'd you find that stat?

I'd like to find out how many have traveled more than 20 yards in the air, and how many of those are completed.
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Knew it was high, but didn't realize it was this high.

75% of Cassel's attempts have traveled less than 10 yards in the air.

21.4% of Cassel's attempts have been thrown behind the LOS.

2011 numbers.
God, this guy is the luckiest guy on planet earth to be starting for an NFL team.
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That's pathetic.

Where'd you find that stat?

I'd like to find out how many have traveled more than 20 yards in the air, and how many of those are completed.
His ESPN.com player page. Click on "splits" then go to the bottom of the page.

Passes thrown 11-20 yards: 10/22 for 211 yards 1:1 ratio

Passes thrown over 20 yards: 6/13 for 219 yards 1:1 ratio

So he's completing a whopping 45% of his passes over 10 yards. Sadly, that's a slight improvement over past years. Of course, it helps that Bowe has been able to fair catch of a couple of those long "punts" Cassel has thrown.
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Nope, and even if I did, I wouldn't bother.

They've ignored these numbers for 3 years, just like the organization has, apparently.
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I've been reposting it all year, but he didn't include my favorite Cassel statistic: wins against playoff teams.

Three in 50 starts, one with the Chiefs, against the 7-9 Seahawks.
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