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Old 09-26-2011, 09:45 AM  
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I'd still say the race for Andrew Luck is still on.
First off, the Chiefs are still a ****ing bad team, thanks to injury, Matt Cassel, and piss poor coaching/play calling.

Those blowouts we had to start the season were perfect indications of it.

A close game with San Diego was predictable if you follow spot betting for professional football:

1. The Chargers just lost their Super Bowl of September against the Patriots.
2. The law of averages favors the Chiefs, two times over.
3. The emotional advantage is totally on KC’s side.
4. Todd Haley’s Chiefs compete after tough road losses.
5. Teams that aren’t total disaster cases like the Raiders tend to tense up and play up and beyond their best when they lose their franchise player(s).
6. The Chiefs aren’t as bad as everybody (including themselves) are making them out to be.

These are all factors that say: this game was going to be close, regardless of the chasm in talent between the two teams.

We've also got two shitty opponents up next in the Vikes and the Colts. The Chiefs will look composed and together. In reality, however, these two games (and the Chiefs should win at least one of them) are shitty teams against shitty teams, and shouldn't convince anybody on CP that this team is anything but a Bottom 5 squad.
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:59 AM   #16
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Matt Flynn looked good with the Packers offense.

Sound familar?

Yeah it does...

But we are no where close to the packers level of talent...

I would rather draft a guy and go from there... Start him immediately and see what happens.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:00 AM   #17
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You sure you wouldnt rather give up a Second for Matt Flynn, than draft a 1st rd QB?
Matt Flynn sucked in college. Why would I want him in the NFL?
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:07 AM   #18
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I think we all just need to chill and realize that its too early to really know who will be the worst team in the league. A lot can get better or worse for every team in the coming weeks. Let's just hope that if we're still in the hunt in November, that we make the most out of it.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:09 AM   #19
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After picking up that dude from MU?

No way do you spend back to back years on a 1st round QB...
No, but you can sell the pick for 3 1st rounders.

And then the team you sell it to picks up Luck.

This isn't rocket science.

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Gabbert showed enough in yesterdays game to keep him in Jacksonville.

The only way that the Jags draft Luck......is if Del Rio is fired and the new coach wants nothing to do with Gabbert.
The Jags face an extremely tough schedule.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:11 AM   #20
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Matt Flynn looked good with the Packers offense.

Sound familar?
Exactly.

He's ALSO a 7th round pick.

He's ALSO been backing up a future HOFer with an elite offense.

He's ALSO looked good in the spot work with that offense.

He's ALSO a high intangibles guy and physically limited.

He's ALSO a free agent this offseason who the Packers will franchise and auction him off to the highest bidder.

The two are carbon copies.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:11 AM   #21
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KC has to have the 1st pick to get Luck. Teams with first round QBs with the 1st pick will certainly trade out of it. Other teams will be more willing to trade up than KC.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:13 AM   #22
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I actually think the team with the best chance of beating us to Luck are the Jaguars.
MJD can win them a game here and there on his own. They already have one and 3 wins probably takes you out of this thing (4 definitely would).

Same with the Vikings; AP can win them a couple of games. Too bad they blew that Detroit game.

The Seahawks win was huge. The Colts and Broncos remain our fiercest opponents, IMO.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:15 AM   #23
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After picking up that dude from MU?

No way do you spend back to back years on a 1st round QB...
Perhaps.

But do you think Pioli would ever ever give up more than Elway to move up and grab Luck?

If the Chiefs don't get #1 overall, we'd better hope a team that needs a quarterback does because you know that Elway will absolutely sell the farm for him.

And yeah, Pioli will go get Matt Flynn and the same assholes that were on his nuts for the Cassel trade (you know who you are) will be right back on them about the great price he got for Flynn instead of having to give up a first rounder for a quarterback.

People are goddamn idiots.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:20 AM   #24
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I wouldn't. But anybody claiming Pioli wouldn't has their head in the sand.
Pioli hates the Packers. Wants nothing to do with them. That entire system/coaching tree is Holmgren/Walsh and has absolutely nothing to do with Bill Parcells.

If there's one thing I've learned about Pioli over the years, it's that he is the ULTIMATE "good ol' boy network" GM/executive. Doesn't trust any coach who doesn't know all 12 verses of the Bill Parcells anthem as well as the Secret Bill Parcells Handshake. And if he doesn't trust that coach, he sure as hell doesn't trust that coach's players, much less that coach's QBs
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:22 AM   #25
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KC has to have the 1st pick to get Luck. Teams with first round QBs with the 1st pick will certainly trade out of it. Other teams will be more willing to trade up than KC.
Every team will be more willing to trade up than KC.
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Pioli hates the Packers. Wants nothing to do with them. That entire system/coaching tree is Holmgren/Walsh and has absolutely nothing to do with Bill Parcells.

If there's one thing I've learned about Pioli over the years, it's that he is the ULTIMATE "good ol' boy network" GM/executive. Doesn't trust any coach who doesn't know all 12 verses of the Bill Parcells anthem as well as the Secret Bill Parcells Handshake. And if he doesn't trust that coach, he sure as hell doesn't trust that coach's players, much less that coach's QBs
Fair point.
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MJD can win them a game here and there on his own. They already have one and 3 wins probably takes you out of this thing (4 definitely would).

Same with the Vikings; AP can win them a couple of games. Too bad they blew that Detroit game.

The Seahawks win was huge. The Colts and Broncos remain our fiercest opponents, IMO.
Don't forget Miami.
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If we're going to be serious about drafting a QB then we need to start getting over Luck. Luck may or may not happen. If he does, great. Odds are not in our favor yet though.

Can we start having some discussion about the "Other" guys?
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:31 AM   #29
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If we're going to be serious about drafting a QB then we need to start getting over Luck. Luck may or may not happen. If he does, great. Odds are not in our favor yet though.

Can we start having some discussion about the "Other" guys?
Very good point.

this should have its own thread for damn sure...
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If we're going to be serious about drafting a QB then we need to start getting over Luck. Luck may or may not happen. If he does, great. Odds are not in our favor yet though.

Can we start having some discussion about the "Other" guys?
Okay.


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