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Old 02-11-2014, 10:54 AM  
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I know what ice dams are and what causes them, but here's the situation. I live in KC area, so that's the weather I'm dealing with. The gutters are of course full of ice with long icicles hanging off, but yesterday I noticed in one area what I guess I would describe as "icicles" on the surface of the siding. This particular siding area sits back a couple feet from the roof overhang so about the only way this could happen is melted ice/water from the roof is somehow getting to the surface of the siding where it re-froze.

So, it's pretty obviously from an ice dam but my question--last year I had a new roof installed. High quality, 50-year warranty. My understanding is the ice dam damage is caused by water getting forced back up and under the shingles where it thens leak wherever. Should this be happening with a new roof? Is there possibly an installation problem? Or it is something else and the roof/roofers is not the issue?
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Old 02-11-2014, 03:32 PM   #16
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Simple answer is better insulation in your attic.
There's no attic above the area at issue. Vaulted ceiling.
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Old 02-11-2014, 03:35 PM   #17
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Old 02-11-2014, 03:44 PM   #18
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There's no attic above the area at issue. Vaulted ceiling.
Even worse. If its a cathedral with not enough vent space expect interior damage when the insulation gets wet. It can wick a lot of water too. You real damage will be this weekend. Temps in the 32 to 35 highs and 20s at night will freeze thaw. Expansion damage as it happens over and over. Wet inside walls nay not be seen interior but sheathing under siding will soak an become punky and rot. Hope it doesnt get mold started.
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Old 02-11-2014, 03:46 PM   #19
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:03 PM   #20
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There's no attic above the area at issue. Vaulted ceiling.
You're pretty much screwed then, best bet is to get one of these roof rakes and keep the snow cleared from the overhangs.

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an example of ice shield
Yeah, I just had a new roof put on a couple years ago. I used to have this problem before, and when I got a new roof they put this on and added it as apparently it is Olathe city code. I haven't had a problem since.
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Even worse. If its a cathedral with not enough vent space expect interior damage when the insulation gets wet. It can wick a lot of water too. You real damage will be this weekend. Temps in the 32 to 35 highs and 20s at night will freeze thaw. Expansion damage as it happens over and over. Wet inside walls nay not be seen interior but sheathing under siding will soak an become punky and rot. Hope it doesnt get mold started.
Its hard to describe the layout, but it looks limited to one particular section of siding. I was planning on painting in the spring, so. I'll probably just remove that piece of siding and see if anything is back there.
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Simple answer is better insulation in your attic.
It would help your cooling bills in the summer too. Tax deduction, sometime the local utility will offer rebates. In your situation there should be a soffit vent that allows air to flow between the rafters and into the attic. Those shouldn't be blocked and it may benefit to add the turbine power vents on the roof to move air through your attic. That should cool the roof in the winter and the summer
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Wtf r ice dams on your roof
A whole world of bad shit if you get them. If you dont just have a beer and relax.
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I have them bad on one corner of my house. I have a south-facing house and and a roof with multiple peaks. The top of the roof gets sun all day, the water runs down to this corner which is shaded by one of the peaks. It freezes and I get Ice dams.

I have an outlet in the soffit of that corner so a heat cable may work for me if I can get the gutter clear to put it in it.
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