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Old 04-30-2011, 09:21 PM  
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We should have one of the top Ds within the next two years for a long, long time

Dorsey, Powe, Jackson
Houston, Johnson, Bailey, Hali
Berry, Lewis, Flowers, Carr

That is a ton of young talent.

That isn't even including guys like Studebaker, Arenas, Sheffield, or even Gilberry and Smith.

It is just what I am projecting as the starting lineup by the end of the year.
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:54 PM   #16
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I think we have an unprecedented (at least for KC) amount of speed and power on defense--and that is saying a lot considering the KC Ds of old.

We have the tools for a very aggressive D. I like that a lot.
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:27 PM   #17
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I think we have an unprecedented (at least for KC) amount of speed and power on defense--and that is saying a lot considering the KC Ds of old.

We have the tools for a very aggressive D. I like that a lot.
I was too young to really remember if our mid-90s defenses were that fast or not, but it does seem like we have better individual players now than we did then. Of course this is excluding DT and Neil Smith, but it never seemed like we had legitimate stars on defense. They were very opportunistic and played well as a team. Now we seem to have great individuals who also play well as a team. It should be a good defense as long as we can keep Crennel as coordinator. I think a change in scheme at this point would be very detrimental.
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:35 PM   #18
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Mid-90s front 4 Smith/Saleumua/Phiilips/DT was unstoppable for a few years there. So much fun to watch.
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:51 PM   #19
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Even if you threw out all of Crennels past record & went solely by last year, you'd have cause to be way optimistic.

I dont care how bad Cleveland sucked, their suckage has been preordained from on high, apparently... but Romeo is the Truth as a D coordinator.

Detroit can have everyone else.
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:54 PM   #20
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Our oldest starter would be 29 on defense.

That would be awesome.
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Old 04-30-2011, 11:00 PM   #21
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Mid-90s front 4 Smith/Saleumua/Phiilips/DT was unstoppable for a few years there. So much fun to watch.
Smith and DT were and probably still are, the all-time leading duo for sacks. It certainly was fun to watch. The best part was the defense rarely got embarassed by anyone. It's one thing to lose a close game, its quite another to have someone pull there starters in the 4th. I hope that doesn't happen to us again for a long time with the group we have now.
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Old 04-30-2011, 11:07 PM   #22
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Our secondary is already pretty-pants creaming. Front line and LBs are 1-2 players away.
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Old 04-30-2011, 11:29 PM   #23
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Old 04-30-2011, 11:52 PM   #24
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Old 05-01-2011, 05:28 AM   #25
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Not so fast. While Herm isn't much of a HC, he has an eye for def talent. He's responsible for the 08 draft.
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Old 05-01-2011, 06:31 AM   #26
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You're right. I hate Herm as well, but he's the one that started us down this road.
He was really good at finding talent - he just didn't know WTF to do with it...
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Dorsey, Powe, Jackson
Houston, Johnson, Bailey, Hali
Berry, Lewis, Flowers, Carr

That is a ton of young talent.

That isn't even including guys like Studebaker, Arenas, Sheffield, or even Gilberry and Smith.

It is just what I am projecting as the starting lineup by the end of the year.
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Old 05-01-2011, 07:43 AM   #30
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Not so fast. While Herm isn't much of a HC, he has an eye for def talent. He's responsible for the 08 draft.
I'll say this again.

We have Herman ****ing Edwards to thank for selling the youth movement to Clark Hunt and changing the direction of this franchise.

For that, we do owe him a huge debt of gratitude.

We were never going to go anyhwere doing things the way we had been for 20 years with Carl's plan.

However, credit for the '08 draft goes to Bill Kuharich, Chuck Cook, and the rest of that scouting staff.

An NFL head coach doesn't have the time to sift through all the information and game film on draft eligible players.
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