Chiefs Should the Chiefs change their name for more Respect? - Page 2

Deberg_1990 · 10-24-2013, 04:48 PM

Well....should they?

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/24...-redskins.html

Read more Yael T. Abouhalkah

But what about the Kansas City Chiefs? Should the team alter its name, too?

In a lengthy report released this month, the National Congress of American Indians indicated its displeasure once again with the Redskins name. But it added some pretty tough language about other major league teams in other cities that have long ago adopted Native American names for their squads.

The Chiefs, in fact, were among those singled out for shame.

As the Congress noted:

“Often citing a long-held myth by non-Native people that ‘Indian’ mascots ‘honor Native people,’ American sports businesses such as the NFL’s Washington ‘Redsk*ns’ and Kansas City ‘Chiefs,’ MLB’s Cleveland ‘Indians’ and Atlanta ‘Braves,’ and the NHL’s Chicago Blackhawks, continue to profit from harmful stereotypes originated during a time when white superiority and segregation were common place.”

“Each of these professional sports businesses attempt to establish a story of honoring Native peoples through the names or mascots; however, each one — be it through logos or traditions (e.g., fight songs, mascots, human impersonators and fan culture) — diminishes the place, status and humanity of contemporary Native citizens.

“What is true about many of the brand origin stories is that team owners during the birth of these brands hoped to gain financially from mocking Native identity. As a result, these business perpetuated racial and political inequity. Those who have kept their logos and brands continue to do so.”

The report goes on to note that hundreds of universities and high schools have changed their Indian-related names.

And the Congress pointed out that — since the Chiefs were born in 1963 — “no professional teams have established new mascots that use racial stereotypes in their names and imagery.”

The point: The teams found out long ago this practice was offensive and stopped adding new names with American Indian references.

The further point: The professional teams still using the names — such as the Chiefs — are being offensive to Indians as well.

What do you think?

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/24...#storylink=cpy

Mike in SW-MO · 10-24-2013, 05:32 PM

Well you know arrowheads were invented by the North American aborigines and no other peoples used bows anywhere an the planet.

**CrazyPhuD** · 10-24-2013, 05:38 PM

What if Cleveland changes their mascot from Chief Wahoo to Chief Apu, would that make it less offensive?

saphojunkie · 10-24-2013, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Kansas City TrapGames

I

'd

saphojunkie · 10-24-2013, 05:55 PM

Redskins is unbelievably racist and offensive.

Change that shit so people leave the non-offensive Chiefs out of this whole mess.

**Rain Man** · 10-24-2013, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

What if Cleveland changes their mascot from Chief Wahoo to Chief Apu, would that make it less offensive?

It would be nice to honor our Asian Indian immigrants by changing all of the Native American names to Indian names.

The Kansas City Rajahs
The Washington Punjabis
The Cleveland, well, Indians
The Atlanta Untouchables

That could work.

Pablo · 10-24-2013, 06:00 PM

Chiefs isn't ****ing offensive. Redskins, yeah. I get it. We don't have a cartoon-y indian mascot or really incorporate anything Native American into our game day experience besides the ****ing horse ridden by a WASP.

**Gonzo** · 10-24-2013, 06:16 PM

Jesus, **** off already. Here's a few blankets, assholes.

Aries Walker · 10-24-2013, 06:23 PM

Just because I'm a historian specializing in just this arena, I have to throw out there that diseases - over which the Europeans had no control, and the Natives had no defense - wiped out about 90% before the Mayflower even landed, so how hard they fought didn't really matter. They actually fought amazingly well.

Also, no Americans ever gave away any smallpoxy blankets. That happened one time, and it was the British.

Okay, I got that off my chest. Carry on.

Halfcan · 10-24-2013, 06:26 PM

The next person that bitches about the Chiefs name should be Scalped.

Halfcan · 10-24-2013, 06:31 PM

So Native Americans have no problem exploiting their heritage by putting their names on Casinos- but on Sports teams which they don't make money- they are insulted?

Brock · 10-24-2013, 06:43 PM

Chiefs has little to do with native americans. The word is french in origin, and native americans didn't invent arrowheads. Don't even lump this team in with the redskins.

**Bugeater** · 10-24-2013, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I can't say for certain because I'm not Native American....but the Arrowhead maybe? Warpaint the horse? Do they still have that?
Posted via Mobile Device

What the hell is stereotypical about an arrowhead?

Halfcan · 10-24-2013, 06:48 PM

[QUOTE=Brock;10120983]Chiefs has little to do with native americans. The word is french in origin, and native americans didn't invent arrowheads. Don't even lump this team in with the redskins.[/QUOTE

Welcome to Clovis Point stadium and the Kansas City Indigenous Humans.

Otter · 10-24-2013, 06:51 PM

This is kinda off the wall but I was watching old Bugs Bunny cartoons with my nieces and nephews. One of the skits I saw was where a husband buys his wife a new coat and takes her for a walk in the woods during buck season.

It's dear fur and when she puts the hood up it has antlers. We all know the undertone to that little joke. It's ****ing hilarious, but for some reason it can't be shown on TV anymore.

Quit being so easily offended, get a life.

The answer is NO!

LiveSteam · 10-24-2013, 06:53 PM

Yael T. Abouhalkah
aaaaaaaaa huh

10-24-2013, 04:48 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3534454	Should the Chiefs change their name for more Respect? Well....should they? http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/24...-redskins.html Read more Yael T. Abouhalkah But what about the Kansas City Chiefs? Should the team alter its name, too? In a lengthy report released this month, the National Congress of American Indians indicated its displeasure once again with the Redskins name. But it added some pretty tough language about other major league teams in other cities that have long ago adopted Native American names for their squads. The Chiefs, in fact, were among those singled out for shame. As the Congress noted: “Often citing a long-held myth by non-Native people that ‘Indian’ mascots ‘honor Native people,’ American sports businesses such as the NFL’s Washington ‘Redsk*ns’ and Kansas City ‘Chiefs,’ MLB’s Cleveland ‘Indians’ and Atlanta ‘Braves,’ and the NHL’s Chicago Blackhawks, continue to profit from harmful stereotypes originated during a time when white superiority and segregation were common place.” “Each of these professional sports businesses attempt to establish a story of honoring Native peoples through the names or mascots; however, each one — be it through logos or traditions (e.g., fight songs, mascots, human impersonators and fan culture) — diminishes the place, status and humanity of contemporary Native citizens. “What is true about many of the brand origin stories is that team owners during the birth of these brands hoped to gain financially from mocking Native identity. As a result, these business perpetuated racial and political inequity. Those who have kept their logos and brands continue to do so.” The report goes on to note that hundreds of universities and high schools have changed their Indian-related names. And the Congress pointed out that — since the Chiefs were born in 1963 — “no professional teams have established new mascots that use racial stereotypes in their names and imagery.” The point: The teams found out long ago this practice was offensive and stopped adding new names with American Indian references. The further point: The professional teams still using the names — such as the Chiefs — are being offensive to Indians as well. What do you think? Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/24...#storylink=cpy
Posts: 66,914

10-24-2013, 05:32 PM	#16
Mike in SW-MO Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $1764176	Well you know arrowheads were invented by the North American aborigines and no other peoples used bows anywhere an the planet.
Posts: 1,085

10-24-2013, 05:38 PM	#17
CrazyPhuD Meow Join Date: Jun 2005 Casino cash: $10005050	What if Cleveland changes their mascot from Chief Wahoo to Chief Apu, would that make it less offensive? __________________ "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t*rd by the clean end"
Posts: 8,523

10-24-2013, 05:55 PM	#19
saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $4426550	Redskins is unbelievably racist and offensive. Change that shit so people leave the non-offensive Chiefs out of this whole mess.
Posts: 12,640

10-24-2013, 06:00 PM	#21
Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $1539356	Chiefs isn't **ing offensive. Redskins, yeah. I get it. We don't have a cartoon-y indian mascot or really incorporate anything Native American into our game day experience besides the **ing horse ridden by a WASP.
Posts: 40,796

10-24-2013, 06:23 PM	#23
Aries Walker Back again, again. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $9583357	Just because I'm a historian specializing in just this arena, I have to throw out there that diseases - over which the Europeans had no control, and the Natives had no defense - wiped out about 90% before the Mayflower even landed, so how hard they fought didn't really matter. They actually fought amazingly well. Also, no Americans ever gave away any smallpoxy blankets. That happened one time, and it was the British. Okay, I got that off my chest. Carry on.
Posts: 8,179

10-24-2013, 06:26 PM	#24
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	The next person that bitches about the Chiefs name should be Scalped.
Posts: 43,200

10-24-2013, 06:31 PM	#25
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	So Native Americans have no problem exploiting their heritage by putting their names on Casinos- but on Sports teams which they don't make money- they are insulted?
Posts: 43,200

10-24-2013, 06:43 PM	#26
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	Chiefs has little to do with native americans. The word is french in origin, and native americans didn't invent arrowheads. Don't even lump this team in with the redskins.
Posts: 47,314

10-24-2013, 06:48 PM	#28
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	[QUOTE=Brock;10120983]Chiefs has little to do with native americans. The word is french in origin, and native americans didn't invent arrowheads. Don't even lump this team in with the redskins.[/QUOTE Welcome to Clovis Point stadium and the Kansas City Indigenous Humans.
Posts: 43,200

10-24-2013, 06:53 PM	#30
LiveSteam The Constitutional Choo choo Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: homeof43conferencetitles Casino cash: $1735432	Yael T. Abouhalkah aaaaaaaaa huh __________________ Progressivism.. The Politically Correct way of saying "I'm a Communist slash Nazi" depending on what the issue of the day is?
Posts: 44,324