TEICHER: Chiefs continue youth movement by releasing Law - Page 2

booger · 02-28-2008, 12:02 AM

Chiefs continue youth movement by releasing Law
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Ty Law’s two interceptions were among the few highlights in the 2007 playoff loss to the Colts. Ty Law is 34, was a member of three Super Bowl-winning teams and has solid Hall of Fame credentials.

But even after being told by the Chiefs he would be released, Law isn’t ready for his career to end.

“I’m by no means done playing football,” Law, a veteran cornerback, said Wednesday. “It’s not that I have to play any more for financial reasons, but I still have the burning passion to play. Why would I retire?”

The Chiefs also informed linebacker Kendrell Bell, tight end Jason Dunn and defensive lineman James Reed they would also be released. That brings the list to six of veteran players who had 2008 contracts but won’t play for the Chiefs next season.

The Chiefs previously released guard John Welbourn and wide receiver Eddie Kennison. All six players are over 30 except Bell, who turns 30 in July.

More attrition will come through free-agency. The Chiefs appear to have little or no interest in re-signing center Casey Wiegmann, tight end Kris Wilson, wide receiver Samie Parker, cornerback Benny Sapp, tackle Kyle Turley, kick returner Eddie Drummond and linebacker Keyaron Fox.

All will be unrestricted free agents when the signing period begins Friday.

The Chiefs would like to re-sign defensive lineman Jimmy Wilkerson and may have an interest in retaining kicker John Carney. Both would become unrestricted free agents Friday.

The Chiefs appear ready to make qualifying offers to three potential restricted free agents: punter Dustin Colquitt, fullback Boomer Grigsby and offensive lineman Will Svitek. That would allow the Chiefs to match any contract offer those players might receive from another team or receive draft pick compensation if they decline to match.

The Chiefs had big expectations for Law when they signed him two years ago. Even though he was 32 at the time, they were hopeful he could still play like the five-time Pro Bowler who helped the Patriots to those three Super Bowl championships.

They were pleased enough in his first season when he made several key plays to help the Chiefs to a wild-card playoff berth. They believe his play slipped last season, a notion Law disputed.

“I played 16 games for the last three years,” he said. “I’m not done. I can still play at a high level. This is the best situation for the team and for myself. They’re in a rebuilding stage there. They’re trying to get younger. At this point in my career, it’s best for me to move on. I’m not interested in rebuilding. I want to play for a contending team before I decide to shut it down. …

“I can’t say it was a bad experience in Kansas City. I wish the outcome had been different. We had high expectations and it just didn’t work out. My intention going in there was that we were going to be a championship contender and that it was going to be a two-year window. We all knew that when I signed the contract.

“I’m still happy I came there. It was a good experience to play two seasons in Arrowhead Stadium. I can’t complain other than I wish we’d had more success.”

Law predicted he wouldn’t be out of a job for long.

“I do have a list, a short list, of teams I’d like to play for,” he said. “I’m going to keep that to myself. I don’t want to lose too much leverage. There will be some interest out there. There’s a real shortage of cornerbacks right now.”

Bell was one of the biggest free-agent busts in Chiefs history. Signed three years ago to a lucrative contract, Bell was never the same player for the Chiefs that he had been for the Steelers earlier in his career.

He started for two seasons at outside linebacker but had little impact. The Chiefs signed Donnie Edwards to replace Bell as a starter last season and he rarely played other than on special teams.

Dunn was a significant if often overlooked part of the Chiefs’ offensive success earlier in the decade. Although he was a backup to Tony Gonzalez and caught few passes, Dunn was a powerful blocker and played extensively.

He was part of a blocking group that annually put the Chiefs near the top of the league in rushing. But the Chiefs believe that advancing age and yearly battles with ailing knees finally caught up to Dunn, 34.

Reed played two seasons with the Chiefs, his first as a starter. But the Chiefs last year signed Alfonso Boone and drafted Turk McBride and Tank Tyler, leaving little playing time for Reed.

To reach Adam Teicher, Chiefs reporter for The Star, call 816-234-4875 or send e-mail to ateicher@kcstar.com
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...ry/508947.html

Mecca · 02-28-2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

So are the Chiefs interested in anyone in free agency, or are they going to stand pat? Sorry but I haven't been paying much attention.

Our team which is well under the cap is making comments like "we have champagne taste with beer money"

CHEAP

Chiefs Pantalones · 02-28-2008, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Our team which is well under the cap is making comments like "we have champagne taste with beer money"

CHEAP

LOL the only constants are the Chiefs always being cheap, and dying.

booger · 02-28-2008, 01:36 AM

Cause they have multiple holes to fill and can't afford a contract like Briggs or Samuel will get and still resign JA.

Mecca · 02-28-2008, 01:36 AM

If they wanted to say it another way like "we don't think you build a great team through FA" that is fine but don't tell me you have no money when I know you do...

Mecca · 02-28-2008, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booger

Cause they have multiple holes to fill and can't afford a contract like Briggs or Samuel will get and still resign JA.

Um yea they can, you can work the cap...first of all the Chiefs aren't signing nor should they be signing Samuel or Briggs...

But to act like the Chiefs can't get out there and get some good FA's is stupid. They could target and sign Jacob Bell Bryant Johnson Antwan Odom and probably a couple more guys and they'd still be well under the cap.

booger · 02-28-2008, 01:41 AM

I think it just fits a good philosophy, one which hopefully they stick with and not talk just talk about.

Why go out and sign players to Nate Clemonts type contracts? If anyone gets that type of coin it should be someone you drafted and developed and know very well.

I took it as champagne taste- we sure have holes to fill and only 10 picks.
Beer Money- We aren't only 1 player away and rebuilding so we have to be smart about who we visit with and how much we pay them as far as FA goes.

booger · 02-28-2008, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Um yea they can, you can work the cap...first of all the Chiefs aren't signing nor should they be signing Samuel or Briggs...

But to act like the Chiefs can't get out there and get some good FA's is stupid. They could target and sign Jacob Bell Bryant Johnson Antwan Odom and probably a couple more guys and they'd still be well under the cap.

We are on the same page with both then.

I hope we sign starters like Johnson, Bell, a CB, maybe a C, ( leave OT for the Draft ) outbid everyone and sign Josh Brown to solve our K problem for 5 plus yrs.

We will have to make a very good effort and deliver in FA. Otherwise I'm sure guys like TG LJ and Waters will be begging for trades with all the rookies, Draft picks and undrafteds ( they'd have to sign 20-30 UDRFA's ) come mini camp.

Thig Lyfe · 02-28-2008, 01:48 AM

Alright! This should clear up enough space for us to sign Ty Law.

blueballs · 02-28-2008, 01:52 AM

Hehehehehe
I can't wait for the Benny Sapp lovers
to go over the deep end cussing Carl

philfree · 02-28-2008, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Our team which is well under the cap is making comments like "we have champagne taste with beer money"

CHEAP

so I'm pretty sure you've stated like a hundred times how the Chiefs should rebuild through the draft and suck for the next couple years...and not spend money on short term FA's.....so the chiefs won't be mediocre .....so we can build a championchip team But you are willing to quote :"Champagne taste for beer money" LOL You're just a little split tongue bitch who wants Ellis at all cost in the draft....So MKr USC how did his wad taste? I've read all the abuse given to findthdr but you ain't no damn different. You just slobber on a different cock......LOL and what amazes me is all the swallowers that just want your seconds...LOL...It may not be Carl's Kool Aide but you'all still swallow some others guys wad of stuff...and the guys who follow..well it's just ass to mouth...
I Love Chiefs Fans beacause I'm one but but the gang bang on findthedr is just queer....His argument is better then any thing I've seen presented by anyone of you gagers......I've read and read and read and.....well.....Shut the f up if you guys really can't produce a fact finding argument. Long is the Chiefs best pick if he's there with a Law or another DT...IMO there's gonna be a really good CB in the second round that's even better.....but it's just a slobber fest for Ellis in the first.......well for you dick suckers.....

PhilFree

booger · 02-28-2008, 02:36 AM

Current Roster
Pos and age as of 9-'08

QB-4
Huard ( likely a cut ) 35
Croyle 25
Thigpen 24
David Greene ( late season addition ) 26

RB-3
LJ 28
K. Smith 23
Jackie Battle 24

FB-1
Boomer (RFA) 26

TE-2
TG 32
M. Allan 24

WR-4
DBowe 24
Webb 26
Maurice Price ( undrafted rookie FA spent '07 on IR ) 23
Bobby Sippio ( not to be confused with greats Benny Sappio or Bob Doleio) 27

K-P-LS - 4
Colquitt 26 ( RFA )
Stan Darche 33
John Carney 44 ( UFA )
Billy Cundiff 28
Nick Novak 27

OT-7
Anthony Alabi 27
McIntosh 31
Svitek ( RFA ) 26
Herb Taylor 24
Travis Leffew 25
Adrian Jones 27
Joe Lobdell 25

G-4
Waters 31
Bober 31 (future cut?)
Tre Stallings 25
Rob Smith 24

C-1
Niswanger 25

DE-3
JA 26
Tamba 24
J. Wilkerson ( UFA ) 27

DT-5
Boone 32
R. Edwards 29
Turk 23
Tank 23
T.J. Jackson 24

LB-7
DJ 25
Nap Harris 29
D. Edwards 35
Nate Harris 25
Pat Thomas 25
Johnny Baldwin 24
Mickey Pimental 23

CB-5
Pat Surtain 32
Brackenridge 24
Patterson 25
Barksdale 24
Not that Chad Johnson 23

S-5
Page 23
Pollard 23
G. Wesley 30
J. McGraw 29
Erick Harris 25

I'd say that spells youth movement.

Chiefs_5627 · 02-28-2008, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree

so I'm pretty sure you've stated like a hundred times how the Chiefs should rebuild through the draft and suck for the next couple years...and not spend money on short term FA's.....so the chiefs won't be mediocre .....so we can build a championchip team But you are willing to quote :"Champagne taste for beer money" LOL You're just a little split tongue bitch who wants Ellis at all cost in the draft....So MKr USC how did his wad taste? I've read all the abuse given to findthdr but you ain't no damn different. You just slobber on a different cock......LOL and what amazes me is all the swallowers that just want your seconds...LOL...It may not be Carl's Kool Aide but you'all still swallow some others guys wad of stuff...and the guys who follow..well it's just ass to mouth...
I Love Chiefs Fans beacause I'm one but but the gang bang on findthedr is just queer....His argument is better then any thing I've seen presented by anyone of you gagers......I've read and read and read and.....well.....Shut the f up if you guys really can't produce a fact finding argument. Long is the Chiefs best pick if he's there with a Law or another DT...IMO there's gonna be a really good CB in the second round that's even better.....but it's just a slobber fest for Ellis in the first.......well for you dick suckers.....

PhilFree

Mecca · 02-28-2008, 03:10 AM

Insults are better than information.....so are smiley faces...

booger · 02-28-2008, 06:34 AM

As good a place as any to put this.
From FFMastermind.com/quickhits

The Cardinals did not extend a tender offer to LB Darryl Blackstock, a third-round pick in 2005, making him an unrestricted free agent. Blackstock's agent, Brad Blank, said the Cardinals told him they couldn't afford to tender Blackstock because of the cap situation created by Fitzgerald's contract and efforts to re-sign Pace.
http://www.azcardinals.com/team/bio.php?PRKey=28

He was a LB we had plenty of interest in before we took DJ in rd 1. Not really a good fit for C2. Might be a good pickup as a backup OLB/Rush End and special teamer. Maybe a Gary Stills role. I remember reading the interviews on him pre draft and he really sounded like he wanted to play in KC. Only 25 yrs old.

He will probably catch on with a team like Cleveland or another 3-4 team. Just seems suprising to me, this situation with a horrible cap# for Fitzgerald they can't seem to rework.

htismaqe · 02-28-2008, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Carl's twenty year track record doesn't exactly convince me. I think we'll pick in the top 5 next year, too.

What's wrong with that?

02-28-2008, 12:02 AM
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $948550	TEICHER: Chiefs continue youth movement by releasing Law Chiefs continue youth movement by releasing Law By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Ty Law’s two interceptions were among the few highlights in the 2007 playoff loss to the Colts. Ty Law is 34, was a member of three Super Bowl-winning teams and has solid Hall of Fame credentials. But even after being told by the Chiefs he would be released, Law isn’t ready for his career to end. “I’m by no means done playing football,” Law, a veteran cornerback, said Wednesday. “It’s not that I have to play any more for financial reasons, but I still have the burning passion to play. Why would I retire?” The Chiefs also informed linebacker Kendrell Bell, tight end Jason Dunn and defensive lineman James Reed they would also be released. That brings the list to six of veteran players who had 2008 contracts but won’t play for the Chiefs next season. The Chiefs previously released guard John Welbourn and wide receiver Eddie Kennison. All six players are over 30 except Bell, who turns 30 in July. More attrition will come through free-agency. The Chiefs appear to have little or no interest in re-signing center Casey Wiegmann, tight end Kris Wilson, wide receiver Samie Parker, cornerback Benny Sapp, tackle Kyle Turley, kick returner Eddie Drummond and linebacker Keyaron Fox. All will be unrestricted free agents when the signing period begins Friday. The Chiefs would like to re-sign defensive lineman Jimmy Wilkerson and may have an interest in retaining kicker John Carney. Both would become unrestricted free agents Friday. The Chiefs appear ready to make qualifying offers to three potential restricted free agents: punter Dustin Colquitt, fullback Boomer Grigsby and offensive lineman Will Svitek. That would allow the Chiefs to match any contract offer those players might receive from another team or receive draft pick compensation if they decline to match. The Chiefs had big expectations for Law when they signed him two years ago. Even though he was 32 at the time, they were hopeful he could still play like the five-time Pro Bowler who helped the Patriots to those three Super Bowl championships. They were pleased enough in his first season when he made several key plays to help the Chiefs to a wild-card playoff berth. They believe his play slipped last season, a notion Law disputed. “I played 16 games for the last three years,” he said. “I’m not done. I can still play at a high level. This is the best situation for the team and for myself. They’re in a rebuilding stage there. They’re trying to get younger. At this point in my career, it’s best for me to move on. I’m not interested in rebuilding. I want to play for a contending team before I decide to shut it down. … “I can’t say it was a bad experience in Kansas City. I wish the outcome had been different. We had high expectations and it just didn’t work out. My intention going in there was that we were going to be a championship contender and that it was going to be a two-year window. We all knew that when I signed the contract. “I’m still happy I came there. It was a good experience to play two seasons in Arrowhead Stadium. I can’t complain other than I wish we’d had more success.” Law predicted he wouldn’t be out of a job for long. “I do have a list, a short list, of teams I’d like to play for,” he said. “I’m going to keep that to myself. I don’t want to lose too much leverage. There will be some interest out there. There’s a real shortage of cornerbacks right now.” Bell was one of the biggest free-agent busts in Chiefs history. Signed three years ago to a lucrative contract, Bell was never the same player for the Chiefs that he had been for the Steelers earlier in his career. He started for two seasons at outside linebacker but had little impact. The Chiefs signed Donnie Edwards to replace Bell as a starter last season and he rarely played other than on special teams. Dunn was a significant if often overlooked part of the Chiefs’ offensive success earlier in the decade. Although he was a backup to Tony Gonzalez and caught few passes, Dunn was a powerful blocker and played extensively. He was part of a blocking group that annually put the Chiefs near the top of the league in rushing. But the Chiefs believe that advancing age and yearly battles with ailing knees finally caught up to Dunn, 34. Reed played two seasons with the Chiefs, his first as a starter. But the Chiefs last year signed Alfonso Boone and drafted Turk McBride and Tank Tyler, leaving little playing time for Reed. To reach Adam Teicher, Chiefs reporter for The Star, call 816-234-4875 or send e-mail to ateicher@kcstar.com http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...ry/508947.html
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02-28-2008, 01:36 AM	#18
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $948550	Cause they have multiple holes to fill and can't afford a contract like Briggs or Samuel will get and still resign JA. __________________ 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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02-28-2008, 01:36 AM	#19
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2077050	If they wanted to say it another way like "we don't think you build a great team through FA" that is fine but don't tell me you have no money when I know you do...
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02-28-2008, 01:41 AM	#21
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $948550	I think it just fits a good philosophy, one which hopefully they stick with and not talk just talk about. Why go out and sign players to Nate Clemonts type contracts? If anyone gets that type of coin it should be someone you drafted and developed and know very well. I took it as champagne taste- we sure have holes to fill and only 10 picks. Beer Money- We aren't only 1 player away and rebuilding so we have to be smart about who we visit with and how much we pay them as far as FA goes. __________________ 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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02-28-2008, 01:48 AM	#23
Thig Lyfe Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Thigpen's America Casino cash: $10004900	Alright! This should clear up enough space for us to sign Ty Law.
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02-28-2008, 01:52 AM	#24
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Hehehehehe I can't wait for the Benny Sapp lovers to go over the deep end cussing Carl
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02-28-2008, 02:36 AM	#26
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $948550	You will laugh, cry and then gouge out your eyes with a spork. But we will be younger Current Roster Pos and age as of 9-'08 QB-4 Huard ( likely a cut ) 35 Croyle 25 Thigpen 24 David Greene ( late season addition ) 26 RB-3 LJ 28 K. Smith 23 Jackie Battle 24 FB-1 Boomer (RFA) 26 TE-2 TG 32 M. Allan 24 WR-4 DBowe 24 Webb 26 Maurice Price ( undrafted rookie FA spent '07 on IR ) 23 Bobby Sippio ( not to be confused with greats Benny Sappio or Bob Doleio) 27 K-P-LS - 4 Colquitt 26 ( RFA ) Stan Darche 33 John Carney 44 ( UFA ) Billy Cundiff 28 Nick Novak 27 OT-7 Anthony Alabi 27 McIntosh 31 Svitek ( RFA ) 26 Herb Taylor 24 Travis Leffew 25 Adrian Jones 27 Joe Lobdell 25 G-4 Waters 31 Bober 31 (future cut?) Tre Stallings 25 Rob Smith 24 C-1 Niswanger 25 DE-3 JA 26 Tamba 24 J. Wilkerson ( UFA ) 27 DT-5 Boone 32 R. Edwards 29 Turk 23 Tank 23 T.J. Jackson 24 LB-7 DJ 25 Nap Harris 29 D. Edwards 35 Nate Harris 25 Pat Thomas 25 Johnny Baldwin 24 Mickey Pimental 23 CB-5 Pat Surtain 32 Brackenridge 24 Patterson 25 Barksdale 24 Not that Chad Johnson 23 S-5 Page 23 Pollard 23 G. Wesley 30 J. McGraw 29 Erick Harris 25 I'd say that spells youth movement. __________________ 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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02-28-2008, 03:10 AM	#28
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2077050	Insults are better than information.....so are smiley faces...
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02-28-2008, 06:34 AM	#29
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $948550	As good a place as any to put this. From FFMastermind.com/quickhits The Cardinals did not extend a tender offer to LB Darryl Blackstock, a third-round pick in 2005, making him an unrestricted free agent. Blackstock's agent, Brad Blank, said the Cardinals told him they couldn't afford to tender Blackstock because of the cap situation created by Fitzgerald's contract and efforts to re-sign Pace. http://www.azcardinals.com/team/bio.php?PRKey=28 He was a LB we had plenty of interest in before we took DJ in rd 1. Not really a good fit for C2. Might be a good pickup as a backup OLB/Rush End and special teamer. Maybe a Gary Stills role. I remember reading the interviews on him pre draft and he really sounded like he wanted to play in KC. Only 25 yrs old. He will probably catch on with a team like Cleveland or another 3-4 team. Just seems suprising to me, this situation with a horrible cap# for Fitzgerald they can't seem to rework. __________________ 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. Last edited by booger; 02-28-2008 at 06:38 AM.. Reason: added player link.
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