Life Weed versus Alcohol - Page 2

**Smed1065** · 10-09-2011, 02:43 PM

I have been lucky lately and have not drunk in 2 months, Cira.

I smoke weed (more) now for a trade off. I have noticed that weed should be legal if alcohol is. I cant complain o0f hangovers or such. I am stupid high as well but I remember it at least..........

Matt ****ed Luck!

**Slainte** · 10-09-2011, 03:01 PM

Well, they're BOTH great!!! As anyone can attest from their users, obviously...

-King- · 10-09-2011, 03:01 PM

By the way...have you ever had high sex? If that doesn't tip the scales in favor of weed, nothing will.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-09-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Slainte

Well, they're BOTH great!!! As anyone can attest from their users, obviously...

Compared to weed, alcohol sucks.

I dont smoke anymore because they random test where I work. I rarely drink.

JohnnyHammersticks · 10-09-2011, 03:04 PM

(Might as well make my virgin post on something important) Someday--when cannabinoid-therapy is commonly accepted as a cure for cancer--people are going to look back and be freaking AMAZED that it was once illegal and that people were actually thrown in jail for using it. The hemp plant is a miracle plant. Why are the powers-that-be so ignorant/corrupt?

Andrew Luck looks so good in red though. . .

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-09-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

By the way...have you ever had high sex? If that doesn't tip the scales in favor of weed, nothing will.

I cant climax while high. After 45 min of ****ing, I just give up LOL

HoneyBadger · 10-09-2011, 03:05 PM

I think it has to do about doing it socially... You can have one drink and show no side effects, where as with weed you're more than likely to display some change in physiology.

lcarus · 10-09-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Brasky

Weed makes me anti social and very stupid, so I prefer alcohol. I feel much more in control without weed.

I see a lot more people that act ten times stupider while drunk, and also out of control. Hell, drunk=out of control. That's why there's so many wrecks and other random out of control events.

**Smed1065** · 10-09-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Alcohol kills the organs - pot kills the brain...

Actually I thought that for a long time but in mt research I have found that alcohol kills grey matter.

**Smed1065** · 10-09-2011, 03:13 PM

Can a mod do me a favor and add a poll. I know, I know.

JohnnyHammersticks · 10-09-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Alcohol kills the organs - pot kills the brain...

Actually, it's looking more and more like the opposite is true. I can't post links because I'm new, but if you Google "cannabinoids + neuroprotective", you'll actually find mountains of research performed in other countries (because it's Schedule 1 in the US, meaning no research can be done on it here) showing that--instead of burning brain cells--it actually protects neurodegeneration. Cannabis is now being used successfully overseas to combat Alzheimer's Disease. Again, I can't post links, but this snippet from The Journal of Neuroscience sums it up pretty well.

"Our results indicate that cannabinoid receptors are important in the pathology of AD (Alzheimer's Disease) and that cannabinoids succeed in preventing the neurodegenerative process occurring in the disease."

**Smed1065** · 10-09-2011, 03:18 PM

Research has begun to accumulate over the past few years showing that cannabinoids are neuroprotective against brain injury resulting from toxins, hypoxia, and head trauma. Cannabinoids are, loosely, chemicals that are similar in structure to the psychoactive components in cannabis and/or chemicals that activate the cannabinoid receptor system in the body. Researchers have found protective effects not only from the plant-derived cannabinoids such as THC, but also from endogenous cannabinoids (those occurring naturally in the body, such as anandamide) and some synthetic pharmaceutical cannabinoids.

The research with the cannabis-source cannabinoids, conducted in mice, rats, and in vitro, has shown remarkable effectiveness in reducing brain damage from injected toxins, hypoxia, and head trauma.1 Other research has found that anandamide levels in the brains of rats naturally rise after brain injury or death and the cannabinoid system may play a primary role in limiting brain damage.2

Because psychoactivity is considered an unwanted side effect, much of the current research is being done with synthetic cannabinoid system agonists. One synthetic cannabinoid, Dexanabinol (HU-211), is already in phase 3 trials (medium scale, involving humans) headed towards governmental approval as a neuroprotective pharmaceutical. Research conducted in Israel that gave 67 patients with serious head trauma either Dexanabinol or placebo confirms similar research in rats showing reduced damage and faster recovery among those receiving the cannabinoids.3 Although other promising head trauma treatments have failed in the demanding and complex phase 3 research trials, many interested in the field of neuroinjury are excited about the findings to date.

The mechanisms by which the cannabinoids reduce damage from both toxic and traumatic injury to the brain are not yet fully understood. Although some researchers have suggested that the cannabinoids may offer protection through a strong antioxidant effect, this is now considered unlikely to account for much of the protection, since cannabinoid-receptor antagonists block the beneficial effects and the doses of the cannabinoids given are very low.

Perhaps the current best guess for how these chemicals provide their protective effects is that their general dampening of neural activity reduces excitotoxicity (damage caused by overly excited neurons). One of the specific ways this happens is through the inhibition of the glutamate system in the brain. The glutamatergic neurons are part of the excitatory system in the brain; inhibiting glutamate reduces the activity of other neurons. At least in some parts of the brain, activation of the CB1 cannabinoid receptor (a specific type of cannabinoid receptor) has been shown to block pre-synaptic release of glutamate. CB1 receptor activation is also known to inhibit certain calcium channels, directly reducing the production of nitric oxide and other potentially damaging reactive oxygen species.1,4

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-09-2011, 03:19 PM

Sorry , all the Mods are either stoned or drunk !

ClevelandBronco · 10-09-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065

I have been lucky lately and have not drunk in 2 months, Cira.

I smoke weed (more) now for a trade off. I have noticed that weed should be legal if alcohol is. I cant complain o0f hangovers or such. I am stupid high as well but I remember it at least..........

Matt ****ed Luck!

Either substance is fine in moderation and dangerous when abused. If you're using weed to keep from getting drunk, you would be prudent to consider whether you might have a problem that could eventually lead to addiction.

Johnny Vegas · 10-09-2011, 03:28 PM

well pot isn't habit forming. Pot is usually around when you're doing activities be it golf, folf, fishing, concerts, etc. What I'm getting at is its used around social activities and pot is associated with a fun event. So the average person would have a hard time getting used to not smoking pot during an event they used to frequently use while doing so could pass as a mental addiction like shopping.

go bo · 10-09-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Either substance is fine in moderation and dangerous when abused. If you're using weed to keep from getting drunk, you would be prudent to consider whether you might have a problem that could eventually lead to addiction.

pffft...

i'm not addicted, i stop every night...

10-09-2011, 02:43 PM
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10-09-2011, 03:05 PM	#21
HoneyBadger The chosen one Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: OC, California Casino cash: $1125760	I think it has to do about doing it socially... You can have one drink and show no side effects, where as with weed you're more than likely to display some change in physiology.
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10-09-2011, 03:13 PM	#24
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10-09-2011, 03:18 PM	#26
Smed1065 Supporter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Returning From Hell Casino cash: $7503673	Research has begun to accumulate over the past few years showing that cannabinoids are neuroprotective against brain injury resulting from toxins, hypoxia, and head trauma. Cannabinoids are, loosely, chemicals that are similar in structure to the psychoactive components in cannabis and/or chemicals that activate the cannabinoid receptor system in the body. Researchers have found protective effects not only from the plant-derived cannabinoids such as THC, but also from endogenous cannabinoids (those occurring naturally in the body, such as anandamide) and some synthetic pharmaceutical cannabinoids. The research with the cannabis-source cannabinoids, conducted in mice, rats, and in vitro, has shown remarkable effectiveness in reducing brain damage from injected toxins, hypoxia, and head trauma.1 Other research has found that anandamide levels in the brains of rats naturally rise after brain injury or death and the cannabinoid system may play a primary role in limiting brain damage.2 Because psychoactivity is considered an unwanted side effect, much of the current research is being done with synthetic cannabinoid system agonists. One synthetic cannabinoid, Dexanabinol (HU-211), is already in phase 3 trials (medium scale, involving humans) headed towards governmental approval as a neuroprotective pharmaceutical. Research conducted in Israel that gave 67 patients with serious head trauma either Dexanabinol or placebo confirms similar research in rats showing reduced damage and faster recovery among those receiving the cannabinoids.3 Although other promising head trauma treatments have failed in the demanding and complex phase 3 research trials, many interested in the field of neuroinjury are excited about the findings to date. The mechanisms by which the cannabinoids reduce damage from both toxic and traumatic injury to the brain are not yet fully understood. Although some researchers have suggested that the cannabinoids may offer protection through a strong antioxidant effect, this is now considered unlikely to account for much of the protection, since cannabinoid-receptor antagonists block the beneficial effects and the doses of the cannabinoids given are very low. Perhaps the current best guess for how these chemicals provide their protective effects is that their general dampening of neural activity reduces excitotoxicity (damage caused by overly excited neurons). One of the specific ways this happens is through the inhibition of the glutamate system in the brain. The glutamatergic neurons are part of the excitatory system in the brain; inhibiting glutamate reduces the activity of other neurons. At least in some parts of the brain, activation of the CB1 cannabinoid receptor (a specific type of cannabinoid receptor) has been shown to block pre-synaptic release of glutamate. CB1 receptor activation is also known to inhibit certain calcium channels, directly reducing the production of nitric oxide and other potentially damaging reactive oxygen species.1,4
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10-09-2011, 03:28 PM	#29
Johnny Vegas MVP Join Date: May 2008 Casino cash: $5493814	well pot isn't habit forming. Pot is usually around when you're doing activities be it golf, folf, fishing, concerts, etc. What I'm getting at is its used around social activities and pot is associated with a fun event. So the average person would have a hard time getting used to not smoking pot during an event they used to frequently use while doing so could pass as a mental addiction like shopping.
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