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Old 09-01-2012, 07:29 PM  
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Car Question

I'm a parts guy, but far from a mechanic. I have this 98 Lumina 3.1L. After a long rain and sitting overnight, it will cut out on acceleration. Doesn't die it just spits and sputters until I let off the gas a bit. Makes driving to work after a rainy night a bit of an adventure. After the rain we had yesterday, is just now dried out enough to be back to normal.

I'm thinking moisture's getting into the electrical system causing it to miss. Thought about plugs and wires... might have a cracked ignition coil?

Thoughts? Thanks in advance.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:45 PM   #16
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Mass airflow sensor is pretty new... I replaced it about 6 months ago.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:45 PM   #17
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Plugs and wires are a normal maintenance thing that I've ignored for a long time.. and they're not very expensive. An ignition coil isn't too bad either, but it has 3 of them... the trick is figuring out which one is the problem. I don't know how tough they are to swap out, but it seems like it should be simple enough.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:46 PM   #18
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coils are held on by two 5.5 mm bolts, simple to change. Wet that ****er down in the dark and watch for the spark to jump.


Or just go full billay and start touching shit and feel for the spark...
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:46 PM   #19
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Check engine light's been on since I've owned it... heh
That's ok. When it's missing out does the light flash?

Going to the lake anytime soon? A good scanner should be able to find the issue pretty easily. Obd2 system on a 98 it records mis fires.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:48 PM   #20
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Mass airflow sensor is pretty new... I replaced it about 6 months ago.
Never seen one effected by moisture, but there's a first time for everything. Lol
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:48 PM   #21
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That's ok. When it's missing out does the light flash?

Going to the lake anytime soon? A good scanner should be able to find the issue pretty easily. Obd2 system on a 98 it records mis fires.
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No, the lights just always on. I work at a dealership and the only codes it shows are for O2 sensors.
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I'm gonna start with plugs and wires.

Thanks for the advice, fellas.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:49 PM   #23
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Really though you don't wasn't to get hit by a coil pack.

Actually I did just today lol. They hit a shit ton harder than the old coils
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:50 PM   #24
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No, the lights just always on. I work at a dealership and the only codes it shows are for O2 sensors.
Can they check the misfire data stream in real time on their scanner? should show the cylinders missing.

I thought that new only had one coil...
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:56 PM   #25
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Check engine light's been on since I've owned it... heh
I have one of those too on my Dakota. It did go off for about a year but now it's back on. Something about my catalytic converter....it runs fine so I haven't concerned myself with it. A lot of that is just emission control bullshit, it's basically the EPA telling you that something needs fixed. **** them.
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I have one of those too on my Dakota. It did go off for about a year but now it's back on. Something about my catalytic converter....it runs fine so I haven't concerned myself with it. A lot of that is just emission control bullshit, it's basically the EPA telling you that something needs fixed. **** them.
Yeah... we call that the "come to the dealership and spend some money" light.
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I have one of those too on my Dakota. It did go off for about a year but now it's back on. Something about my catalytic converter....it runs fine so I haven't concerned myself with it. A lot of that is just emission control bullshit, it's basically the EPA telling you that something needs fixed. **** them.
basically your downstream oxygen sensor isn't showing a drop enough compared to the upstream for the computer to think the cat is working correctly...
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Yeah... we call that the "come to the dealership and spend some money" light.
The light said to check engine, so I checked and it was still there. I think I'm good.
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