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Kerberos · 05:58 AM

I didn't see this posted yesterday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/traini...ohn&id=4418733

Broncos in tough spot with Marshall

If you thought Josh McDaniels was in a tough spot with the Jay Cutler trade, don't look now.

The Brandon Marshall situation might be worse. The trust between Marshall and the Broncos has been broken on both sides. Marshall doesn't trust the trainers; he doesn't trust the organization. On the flip side, the Broncos don't trust him enough to offer him a contract extension. Trading him would set more precedents for players who might want to leave the Broncos.

What the Broncos need is a face-saving angel, a team willing to trade the equivalent of a No. 1 and No. 4 pick to resolve this situation. Watching the Broncos play the Seahawks on Saturday night, I think the Broncos can get by with three- and four-receiver sets that feature Eddie Royal, Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Stokley and Chad Jackson.

That group of receivers might not be tall, but it's solid enough for Kyle Orton, who is going to operate a quick passing offense out of three- and five-step drops. The problem facing the Broncos is that because their defense is suspect, they probably are going to play a lot of shootouts. Orton is good, but I don't see him winning three games in which the defense surrendered 30 or more points, as Cutler did last season.

Plus, starting in Week 4, the Broncos face an eight-game stretch in which it's going to be hard to win many games. From Oct. 4 to Nov. 26, they face Dallas, New England, San Diego, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Washington, San Diego and the Giants. They could lose all eight. Getting value for Marshall, who is in the final year of his contract, is the wise thing to do if McDaniels is going to build the Broncos back into a playoff team.

Marshall would be a great fit on the Ravens or the Jets. If neither team -- or another suitor -- offers a No. 1 and a No. 4, the Broncos will have to keep him, even though his attitude might cause his productivity to drop.

Quesadilla Joe · 08-25-2009, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinger

Like the 3 others the DB's have dropped against the Donx? One of them in the end zone against that would have negated a touchdown on the next play. So by your logic we can assume that you think the same of AbOrton, correct.

No DB dropped an INT from Orton in the Seattle game. Scheffler broke up a bad pass and wound up catching it.

Kerberos · 08-25-2009, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I am not hung up on that left handed pass like Chiefs fans are. Anyone who knows football would know that was a better decision than taking a sack.

Lets see here DUMBASS.... taking a sack on the 6 or 7 yard line isn't better than throwing a ball up for grabs "Lefthanded" that can turn into an INT in the end zone giving the other team the ball on the 20?

"I'm not a smart man Jenny but I do know what the better scenario here IS."

Jezuus ...throwing the ball OUT of the end zone would have been better than a left handed up for grabs throw.

Quesadilla Joe · 08-25-2009, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerberos

Lets see here DUMBASS.... taking a sack on the 6 or 7 yard line isn't better than an INT in the end zone giving the other team the ball on the 20?

"I'm not a smart man Jenny but I do know what the better scenario here IS."

Ok Herm.

LaChapelle · 08-25-2009, 06:35 AM

A safety is like picking up a penny on the street/sitandspin

Agent V · 08-25-2009, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I'm really not worried about it either way. Eddie Royal, Jabar Gaffney, and Brandon Stokely are all better WR's than anyone Orton has played with in the NFL. We have guys that can step up.

It's not like what would happen to KC if they were dumb enough to trade Tony Gonzal...... wait

What are you laughing about? We traded the best tight end in football with two years left on his career. You traded a franchise quarterback at 26 years old. I don't understand all this shit you sling around on here to defend your team. It baffles me.

Kerberos · 08-25-2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

What are you laughing about? We traded the best tight end in football with two years left on his career. You traded a franchise quarterback at 26 years old. I don't understand all this shit you sling around on here to defend your team. It baffles me.

THIS

Quesadilla Joe · 08-25-2009, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

What are you laughing about? We traded the best tight end in football with two years left on his career. You traded a franchise quarterback at 26 years old. I don't understand all this shit you sling around on here to defend your team. It baffles me.

We traded a QB who makes to many mistakes to take a team anywhere, who was second in the NFL in INT's thrown, and had the worst bad decision percentage of any QB in the NFL.

We got Kyle Orton, who fits perfectly into what Josh McDaniels wants to do... Who should have NO PROBLEM putting up a better QB Rating than the guy he replaced. That trade also let us get Knowshon Moreno, who has been compared to LaDanian Tomlinson by a bunch of people, and was the best RB in the entire draft. We also got Robert Ayers, who Mike Mayock said would be the best defensive player taken in the draft. And we got Alphonso Smith, the best cover corner in the draft, who would have been a top 10 pick if he was 2 inches taller.

I love the trade. We are better team because of that trade.

Agent V · 08-25-2009, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

We traded a QB who makes to many mistakes to take a team anywhere, who was second in the NFL in INT's thrown, and had the worst bad decision percentage of any QB in the NFL.

We got Kyle Orton, who fits perfectly into what Josh McDaniels wants to do... Who should have NO PROBLEM putting up a better QB Rating than the guy he replaced. That trade also let us get Knowshon Moreno, who has been compared to LaDanian Tomlinson by a bunch of people, and was the best RB in the entire draft. We also got Robert Ayers, who Mike Mayock said would be the best defensive player taken in the draft. And we got Alphonso Smith, the best cover corner in the draft, who would have been a top 10 pick if he was 2 inches taller.

I love the trade. We are better team because of that trade.

Bravo good sir! Your team has done, according to you, EVERYTHING RIGHT this offseason. You have made the most groundbreaking trade for one of (if not THE) best quarterback in the NFL! Your unproven, rookie running back is simply a LaDanian Tomlinson clone! Robert Ayers, another unproven rookie, will save your floundering defense BY HIMSELF!

And if I'm not mistaken, your team has signed the greatest head coach in the NFL! The way he "subs and does things" according to one of your local radio contributors, will shock and revolutionize the NFL! Despite being 32 years old and unable to control a locker room, Josh McDaniels will rise above scrutiny and bestow his football master mind unto YOUR franchise, you lucky dog you!

Why, that could the first time in the history of NFL offseason this feat has been accomplished! No mistakes made! Every move seemingly perfect! You're destined for the Super Bowl young lad! From the mountain tops, tell the fans everything is okay! Tell Denver! Tell the WORLD!

And now you're on ignore. Good luck this coming season.

brophog · 08-25-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Anyone who knows football would know that was a better decision than taking a sack.

Someone else must have informed you then.....

I don't think I've read anything from you that didn't tow the company line. I don't care who you are, Chiefs fan or Donkey lover, if you can't make objective decisions without sucking up to the organization, then you aren't exhibiting anything worth reading.

**Bwana** · 08-25-2009, 07:13 AM

Dirt Nap............

**Bane** · 08-25-2009, 07:16 AM

They cant trade Marshall now anyway,Mc Daniels would loose whats left of his locker room if that happened.

**Bane** · 08-25-2009, 07:17 AM

I wonder it Orton had thrown that int to Ed Reed and he ran it back for a TD would you guys still say that it was better than taking a sack or throwing it away and turning it over on downs?

Quesadilla Joe · 08-25-2009, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

I wonder it Orton had thrown that int to Ed Reed and he ran it back for a TD would you guys still say that it was better than taking a sack or throwing it away and turning it over on downs?

I also wonder if Jabar Gaffney or Brandon Stokely would have caught that pass, what throw would Chief fans rip Orton for?

**Bane** · 08-25-2009, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I also wonder if Jabar Gaffney or Brandon Stokely would have caught that pass, what throw would Chief fans rip Orton for?

Prob not,but you know us,were gonna give you guys shit every chance we get.Thats just one of the many things that makes this rivalry way much more fun than us and the faiders.

**MahiMike** · 08-25-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I am not hung up on that left handed pass like Chiefs fans are. Anyone who knows football would know that was a better decision than taking a sack.

I am. If he's gonna attempt it, at least make it good. I can throw much better leftie than that! And no, I'm not a leftie. Terrible execution.

08-25-2009, 04:09 AM
Kerberos Chiefs Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Henderson, NV Casino cash: $10000632	The Broncos futility continues I didn't see this posted yesterday. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/traini...ohn&id=4418733 Broncos in tough spot with Marshall If you thought Josh McDaniels was in a tough spot with the Jay Cutler trade, don't look now. The Brandon Marshall situation might be worse. The trust between Marshall and the Broncos has been broken on both sides. Marshall doesn't trust the trainers; he doesn't trust the organization. On the flip side, the Broncos don't trust him enough to offer him a contract extension. Trading him would set more precedents for players who might want to leave the Broncos. What the Broncos need is a face-saving angel, a team willing to trade the equivalent of a No. 1 and No. 4 pick to resolve this situation. Watching the Broncos play the Seahawks on Saturday night, I think the Broncos can get by with three- and four-receiver sets that feature Eddie Royal, Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Stokley and Chad Jackson. That group of receivers might not be tall, but it's solid enough for Kyle Orton, who is going to operate a quick passing offense out of three- and five-step drops. The problem facing the Broncos is that because their defense is suspect, they probably are going to play a lot of shootouts. Orton is good, but I don't see him winning three games in which the defense surrendered 30 or more points, as Cutler did last season. Plus, starting in Week 4, the Broncos face an eight-game stretch in which it's going to be hard to win many games. From Oct. 4 to Nov. 26, they face Dallas, New England, San Diego, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Washington, San Diego and the Giants. They could lose all eight. Getting value for Marshall, who is in the final year of his contract, is the wise thing to do if McDaniels is going to build the Broncos back into a playoff team. Marshall would be a great fit on the Ravens or the Jets. If neither team -- or another suitor -- offers a No. 1 and a No. 4, the Broncos will have to keep him, even though his attitude might cause his productivity to drop. Last edited by Kerberos; 08-25-2009 at 05:58 AM..
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Bane C.H.I.E.F.S Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: **** your face Casino cash: $10005055	I wonder it Orton had thrown that int to Ed Reed and he ran it back for a TD would you guys still say that it was better than taking a sack or throwing it away and turning it over on downs?
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