Sac's 2012 End of Season Mock

[Saccopoo]

1. Peter Konz, C; Wisconsin: 6'3", 313 lbs.
- Yep, it's a ten pick reach at minimum, but Casey Wiegmann, while one of the best at his position during his career, is sniffing 40 and contemplated retirement before this past season. Rather than moving Hudson to center, keep him at guard (where he was a three time ACC first teamer & AP AA) and get a guy like Konz when you have the chance. He's big, physical and has the strength to handle even the biggest defensive tackles. I don't know if he's as good as Alex Mack at the same stage, but he reminds me a lot of him.



Other options would include OT's Riley Rieff or Jon Martin; ILB's Luke Kuechly or Dont'a Hightower (no Burfict as he hasn't shown the instincts to play at the next level or the capability to be anything other than a 15 yard personal foul waiting to happen).

2. Matt Reynolds, OT; BYU: 6'6", 330 lbs.
- Reynolds is a four year starter, and three year conference first teamer at left tackle. This also might be a bit of a reach, but he won't last beyond the second round and is most likely a better pro prospect than any offensive tackle beyond the top three. He's very athletic for a guy his size and could effectively play either side of the line. Plays nasty and through the whistle. Barry Richardson might be the worst starting offensive tackle in the NFL and the position needs to be addressed immediately. If the Chiefs don't get a shot at one of the top three in the first round, it needs to be addressed here - and Pioli has also shown the propensity to draft offensive line in the second round.



3. Derrek Wolfe, DT; Cincinatti: 6'5", 310 lbs.
- Initially, I would have loved the Chiefs to have picked up Wolfe in the 5th round, but after a monster 2011 season where he had 19.5 tackles for a loss and 9.5 sacks from the defensive tackle position for the Bearcats, he's going to be a riser, especially at the 3-4 defensive end spot where his length and speed to go along with his size are damn near prototype for the position. Jackson flashed a couple times in 2011 for the Chiefs, but Dorsey just looks like a "guy" out there and has a tendency to get absolutely engulfed by NFL guards.



4. Vick Ballard, RB; Mississippi State: 5'11", 215 lbs.
- With teams loading the box in an effort to stop him (because the Bulldogs didn't have much else offensively), Ballard still managed over 1000 yards on a 5.6 yards per carry. He's physically solid with good muscle mass and has very good vision. Is effective inside as well as out and is a good receiver. He went for 180 yards and two TD's in the Music City Bowl to close out his college career. He's a really good runnning back that would effectively fill the Thomas Jones spot in the lineup.



5. Tank Carder, MLB; TCU; 6'2", 240 lbs.
- With the two best blocking tight ends (Lutzenkirchen and Williams) going back to school for the 2013 season, this gets changed to linebacking stud Carder, who is the two-time MWC Defensive Player of the Year. Very instinctive and fundamentally sound, he was asked to do a lot in the middle playing in TCU's oddball 4-2-5 defense. Is effective in both coverage and filling the gaps on runs. Likes to put the big hit on carriers, but also plays smart. Is long and would be capable of carrying more weight to play inside in a 34. MVP of the 2011 Rosebowl when TCU beat a very good Wisconsin team. The guy can play some football.



6. Sean Cattouse, SS; California: 6'2", 215 lbs.
- With the loss of Berry at the start of the season, it highlighted the lack of depth that the Chiefs have at the strong safety position. McGraw has superb instincts but runs like he's in molasses. Sabby was a stopgap because of the injury. Cattouse has been solid for the Bears all season and one of the few bright spots on their defense. He's big, fast, likes to put the big hit on guys and has the tools to be an effective player with coaching. This is what you want in a backup strong safety.



7. Nick Provo, TE; Syracuse: 6'4", 250 lbs.
- Originally this was Caleb McSurdy, ILB; Montana, but with the pick of Carder in the fifth, another productive tight end on the roster is needed. Provo was First Team All-Big East in 2011 and set the Syracuse school record for career receptions for a tight end despite really only getting onto the field his junior and senior seasons. A Mackey semi-finalist in 2011.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I agree with you, but it's a different NFL and the center position is more valuable than it used to be. Hell, the other Pouncey brother got picked in the first to play center and he wasn't close to being as good as his brother at that position. Add to that that Konz is a junior. One more season and he would have the potential to be mentioned alongside Mack.

Like I said, it's a ten spot reach, but if the top three OT's are gone along with the two quarterbacks, Konz is as good at his position as anyone in the draft. It's as much a reach taking Konz at that point as it is Kuechly (who is also an absolute stud at his position, but you typically don't take a MLB that high either).

Under what circumstance would the top three OTs be taken along with the two QBs?

That would push sick talent down to the Chiefs. No need to spoil that by going in the other direction and reaching.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

About the only thing I agree with is the analysis of Kellen Moore.

I like Konz but the love of OL is way over the top.

I think the Chiefs are in a bit of no-man's land at the #11 pick. It's likely that the two quarterbacks and three tackles are gone. (And I think Konz is better at his position than Riley and Martin are at theirs anyway.)

Other than Luke Kuechly and Peter Konz, who is in the draft that the Chiefs should take at that point that is going to be an upgrade to the team? One of the tackles, yes. If they fall. Other than that, I think a guy like Tannehill is a substantially bigger reach than Konz.

And please don't say Dontari Poe.

[Dr. Gigglepants]

As much as I would like to get one of the "other" qb's being talked about in the other thread at #12, I don't see Pioli doing it. I wouldn't mind a stud center, like you said, Weigmann is pushing 40.

Assuming the top tackles are gone I'd be for it. Our line needs upgrading, but it's not far from being a real strength for our team.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I think the Chiefs are in a bit of no-man's land at the #11 pick. It's likely that the two quarterbacks and three tackles are gone. (And I think Konz is better at his position than Riley and Martin are at theirs anyway.)

Other than Luke Kuechly and Peter Konz, who is in the draft that the Chiefs should take at that point that is going to be an upgrade to the team? One of the tackles, yes. If they fall. Other than that, I think a guy like Tannehill is a substantially bigger reach than Konz.

And please don't say Dontari Poe.

Assuming they let Carr go, Kirkpatrick.

[the Talking Can]

unless we're trading down, that first pick is baloney

Albert isn't going anywhere, because he's a good LT, so the 2nd round pick is explicitly for a RT

Dorsey is one of the best run stuffing 3-4 DEs in the league and does not have a "tendency to get absolutely engulfed by NFL guards"...jesus drunken christ, but I'm fine drafting DL...

reaching for OL with our first two picks thankfully isn't going to happen, as pioli does generally show an eye for value

i like picks 4/5, don't know anything about 6/7...i'd rather trade down and grab a NT in the first 1st, OL in the second...

*edit

i like moore too, and wouldn't have any problem burning a late round pick on him

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You have the most outdated football takes I've ever seen. Building those trenches, the key to winning football in the twenty tens

[LiL stumppy]

If we can't get a QB in the draft, I don't see a problem with this. Would be a dominate OL.With that OL Orton/ Stanzi could be sucessful, and win a play-off game, no doubt in my mind.

I think if it's not a QB, move back, get a OT/G. And Bank on Orton/Stanzi for another year.

[Urc Burry]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Hey, we'd do well to land Matt Reynolds in the 2nd.

I haven't seen him mocked in the 2nd at all, let alone of the top of it.

Same story every year.. Hmmmm let's draft some lineman from a shitty conference.. BYU, Utah, Boise State, and Wisconsin being my favorite.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Under what circumstance would the top three OTs be taken along with the two QBs?

That would push sick talent down to the Chiefs. No need to spoil that by going in the other direction and reaching.

1. Colts: Luck
2. Rams: Blackmon
3. Vikes: Kalil
4. Browns: Griffin
5. Bucs: Richardson
6. Skins: Kirkpatrick
7. Jags: Claiborn
8. Panthers: Couples
9. Dophins: Martin
10. Bills: Riley

So what sick talent is now at the Chiefs? Jeffery? Still? Floyd? DeCastro?

At this point, the pick should be either Konz or Kuechly IMO. Just fits with what the Chiefs need and they are the best two at their position, especially Konz as you could make the argument that Hightower is potentially a better 3-4 MLB with Kuechly's best fit in a 4-3. (Though I think he can play in either effectively.)

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by PGM

You have the most outdated football takes I've ever seen. Building those trenches, the key to winning football in the twenty tens

Games are won up front, if you don't believe that, you have no real football knowledge. Simple.

[DeezNutz]

BYU player early. Shocker.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Games are won up front, if you don't believe that, you have no real football knowledge. Simple.

Games are won under center.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Pretty good mock, except for the first round.

A center is just really, really silly to take in the first round.

Realisticaly, Pouncey, Wisniewski, and Hudson last year weren't centers. At least not the kind of centers you should draft high and build your franchise around. If you take a guy that high, you better be damn sure you're getting a great player.

Konz is a real center. He's fast, agile, big, and strong. With him, it wouldn't matter who was carrying the ball. Jamaal Charles could be our 4th and short running back with Hudson, Konz, and Asamoah.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Games are won under center.

Why don't people understand this yet? Are they still watching 10 plus year old VHS tapes of games and haven't caught up to today's games.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Games are won up front, if you don't believe that, you have no real football knowledge. Simple.

So, you come from the past. Welcome to 2012 where QB's rule the league.