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I remember those blistering hot August days in full pads and helmets,sweating and gasping for air during wind sprints and yet no one on our teams ever died from heat stroke.
Now don't get me wrong I'm not making light of the Stringer death I just think this judge's ruling could open up a major can of worms for any and all football coaches,etc. "Any manufacturer who sells football helmets and shoulder pads without a heat stroke warning, knowing they're being used in extreme heat, does so at its peril," DeMarco said. "The same goes for leagues, coaches, and equipment managers who permit such equipment to be used without heat stroke warnings." Judge orders jury trial in Stringer suit The family of former Minnesota Vikings offensive lineman Korey Stringer won an important legal victory Monday against the manufacturer of the helmets and shoulder pads he wore when he died nearly eight years ago from complications of heatstroke. A federal judge in Ohio concluded that manufacturer Riddell Inc. had a duty to warn Stringer that its helmets and shoulder pads could contribute to heat stroke when used in hot conditions. As a result, U.S. District Court judge John D. Holschuh ordered a Nov. 2 jury trial to determine whether Riddell's failure to warn Stringer comprises legal culpability for his death. Regardless of that eventual outcome, Stringer family spokesman James Gould termed Monday's ruling "landmark" because it makes the connection between the equipment and heat stroke. Gould said the best way to uphold Stringer's legacy is to "make sure what happened to Korey doesn't happen to any other football player -- from the National Football League all the way down to kids in Pop Warner." "This decision should go a long way to ensure it doesn't," Gould added. A Riddell spokesperson did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment. Stringer collapsed after a training camp practice on July 31, 2001 and died the next day in Mankato, Minn. His wife, Kelci, settled legal claims in 2003 against the Minnesota doctor who treated him. She also settled a lawsuit earlier this year against the NFL, which agreed to support the creation of a heat illness prevention program for athletes of all ages. Gould said the case against Riddell likely represents the final step of the family's legal pursuits. "The timing of this is really compelling," Gould said. "Coaches all around the country, at every level, are getting their equipment ready now for camps. This really brings the issue to the forefront." Holschuh wrote it was "reasonably foreseeable ... that a user of [Riddell's] helmets and shoulder pads during extremely hot and humid conditions might suffer from a heat stroke." Thus, Holschuh concluded, Riddell "owed Stringer a duty to warn." That conclusion paves the way for the jury trial next fall. It does not legally require Riddell to label its equipment immediately. But Stringer's attorney, Paul DeMarco, said it should provide ample incentive to do so in order to avoid future legal liability. "Any manufacturer who sells football helmets and shoulder pads without a heat stroke warning, knowing they're being used in extreme heat, does so at its peril," DeMarco said. "The same goes for leagues, coaches, and equipment managers who permit such equipment to be used without heat stroke warnings." Kevin Seifert covers the NFC North for ESPN.com. |
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When my Grandpa played football he folded his helmet and put it in his back pocket after games.
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Idiotic. Of course it's hot outside. I guess we'd better have roadsigns up all over the place during the summer warning people that it's hot outside and swap them to "Put on a coat" signs in the winter. It's common sense. Warning labels are so common now that noone reads them anyways. If they only used them when they were actually needed maybe people would pay more attention.
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I think you guys are looking at this issue in the wrong light.
Requiring Riddell (or any other helmet/shoulder pad manufacturer) to have warning stickers will absolve them of future liability. All Riddell would have to say in the future is "Read the warning label". It seems to me that the lawyers for Kory Stringer are trying to establish a legacy, not create more lawsuits. |
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I certainly don't agree with government intervention in cases like this, but so many of you are looking at this from some "traditionalist" mindset.
The fact is, so many of you that played recreationally or in middle/high school, didn't have nearly as intense workouts as pro football teams. Your grampys weren't having heat strokes, but they also weren't running two-a-days between weightlifting, plyometrics, resistance and speed training, etc. The bodies are pushed to be bigger, better, faster and stronger, and the response to extreme conditions is indicative in cases like this. The heat stroke issue should be inherent to coaches in players who practice in that weather-- that's not where my argument is. But to simply argue that "well, we've been doing it this way for decades"... well, that just doesn't translate the same any more.
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OK. Maybe it was discussed at the time. I do remember something about it.
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