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**Tribal Warfare** · 08-15-2011, 02:27 AM

Chiefs' Haley not changing approach to preseason
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

ST. JOSEPH | The Chiefs looked unprepared for Friday night’s exhibition opener compared with their opponents, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The fact the Chiefs were dominated in a 25-0 defeat was perhaps inevitable given that they spent the previous two weeks of training camp working more on conditioning than football.

They may be in for more of the same Friday night when the preseason schedule continues with a game against the Ravens in Baltimore. Coach Todd Haley said he won’t alter the approach this week as camp resumes at Missouri Western.

The Chiefs returned to practice Sunday afternoon.

“I feel really good about the plan,” Haley said. “I said it after the game, it was the first one and not the last one, and I’m going all the way to the last one of the season. We’re in training camp, and as I keep telling the players, there’s no light at the end of the tunnel. Each and every day counts for us and for them to getting this team where it needs to be to start the season.

“I feel good about what we’re doing. We have a plan for this week. We’re going to have another game Friday at Baltimore. But the plan is again going to revolve more about us than anything else right now.”

The Chiefs were in full pads Sunday for the entire practice for the first time at camp. There was some contact but not to the normal standards for a padded practice at camp.

Haley said he is preparing for the Chiefs for the regular season, which begins Sept. 11 against Buffalo at Arrowhead Stadium. He indicated the route he’s taking for the Chiefs is best given the lack of offseason practice and conditioning sessions because of the lockout.

The Chiefs didn’t practice in pads or hold as many contact drills as several other NFL teams during the first two weeks of camp. Haley said he wants all players on equal footing with regard to physical conditioning before he turns them loose in practice.

“I don’t think we’re out of the woods as far as where we are physically,” Haley said. “We’ve got a couple of new, new guys on the roster in addition to some guys that weren’t quite there as last week wound down. That’s still the No. 1 thing for us and for me as the head coach is to get this team taking every day possible to physically get these guys into a position to succeed and hold up for what we hope is a good, long season.

“This time of year, you’re used to being in pads a little more and you’re used to doing things a little differently but (this year) it’s a different set of circumstances. The goal is to be ready for Sept. 11. That’s all really that I’m focused on, and these other things will take care of themselves.”

Haley said some of his assistants had been pushing him to do more in practice. At least one member of the staff, defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel, said he understood the situation because it’s been such a strange year for both players and coaches.

“Every team is doing things different,” Crennel said. “Everybody is trying to figure it out. You do what you feel like is best and you go from there. That’s what we’re doing. We think we can be ready Sept. 11.”

Haley resisted the urging from his assistants to bring the Chiefs along faster.

“As the head coach, you have to look at the big picture all the time,” Haley said. “I’ve been an assistant coach and I know how assistant coaches think … they have their area or their agenda that they have to worry about first and foremost, but it’s my job to look at the big picture.

“We’ve got a great, experienced coaching staff. We have great conversations, but there hasn’t been a time when we’ve left any meeting or gone to spread the message to the players that we’re not all on the same page.”

Haley said that after watching the video of the Tampa Bay game, the situation wasn’t as bad as it looked at first glance. On offense, the Chiefs had just 137 yards and had trouble blocking for their quarterbacks.

On defense, the Chiefs missed some tackles. Both are symptoms of when a team hasn’t adequately prepared, at least from a physical standpoint.

“When you watch a game live, when there’s a jailbreak offensively and the quarterback is under great duress, you tend to think it’s everybody,” Haley said. “But it was one guy here, one guy there. It wasn’t three or four guys all with breakdowns.

“It was the same defensively. Our defense only works if everybody is doing their job first. We had some instances where one guy got out of place, and that then made a lot of guys look like maybe they weren’t doing that they’re supposed to.”

Blick · 08-15-2011, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

What tells you this? You think it's going to be daycare until the season starts? They still have 4 weeks to get ramped up. No need to go full on now, they can bring them up to full speed in time.

The way Haley is talking about getting the team prepared. The fact that yesterday was the first time they've gone full pads. Other teams are going full speed and hitting, and you can tell.

While we are being "brought up to full speed", other teams are already going full speed. We could be behind when the season starts, and you can't catch up during the season. That's what I'm worried about.

13and3 · 08-15-2011, 08:26 AM

Healthy and Injury free is the way to go. All the teams trying to do to much to fast will most likely pay for it with key injuries in the preseason. I am hoping Phillis Rivers get his head taken off, b4 the preseason is over.

ReynardMuldrake · 08-15-2011, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Blick

The way Haley is talking about getting the team prepared. The fact that yesterday was the first time they've gone full pads. Other teams are going full speed and hitting, and you can tell.

While we are being "brought up to full speed", other teams are already going full speed. We could be behind when the season starts, and you can't catch up during the season. That's what I'm worried about.

Of course you can catch up during the season. Meanwhile those other teams will be trying to get caught up on injuries. I'd rather take it easy and get everyone conditioned and healthy than crap my pants worrying about the Bills.

Blick · 08-15-2011, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by warispeace

Of course you can catch up during the season. Meanwhile those other teams will be trying to get caught up on injuries. I'd rather take it easy and get everyone conditioned and healthy than crap my pants worrying about the Bills.

How? You get less than one full pad practice per week now during the regular season.

So, you're taking it easy during the pre-season, and you're taking it easy during the week in the regular season to keep guys healthy...and then expect guys to turn it on for the real games without getting hurt?

boogblaster · 08-15-2011, 08:50 AM

easy ....

ReynardMuldrake · 08-15-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Blick

How? You get less than one full pad practice per week now during the regular season.

So, you're taking it easy during the pre-season, and you're taking it easy during the week in the regular season to keep guys healthy...and then expect guys to turn it on for the real games without getting hurt?

Obviously, you have to strike a balance somewhere in between. This season, I think conditioning and staying healthy is going to be even more important than it has been in the past.

rocknrolla · 08-15-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Renegade

Oh boy we will lose 35-0 this week

Who cares. I just hope Haley is doing the right thing.

Chiefnj2 · 08-15-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by warispeace

Obviously, you have to strike a balance somewhere in between. This season, I think conditioning and staying healthy is going to be even more important than it has been in the past.

If other teams are hitting then don't they have the edge in conditioning?

Okie_Apparition · 08-15-2011, 10:48 AM

There is no proven trail to follow, just hacking a path with machettes.

Mr. Laz · 08-15-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Blick

This doesn't jive with the tough, physical team that Haley wants.

Would be a great approach if we were in a 7 on 7 flag league.

I think the team is getting set up for a slow start.

If we get off to a slow start we are screwed.

The second half of the season we face several legit Super Bowl caliber teams.

Nov 21	KC @ NE
Nov 27	PIT @ KC
Dec 04	KC @ CHI
Dec 11	KC @ NYJ
Dec 18	GB @ KC

we could lose all 5 of these even playing our best. We also play @San Diego in week 3 and @indy week 5 where we could get our asses handed to us.

**1ChiefsDan** · 08-15-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Blick

The way Haley is talking about getting the team prepared. The fact that yesterday was the first time they've gone full pads. Other teams are going full speed and hitting, and you can tell.

While we are being "brought up to full speed", other teams are already going full speed. We could be behind when the season starts, and you can't catch up during the season. That's what I'm worried about.

How many of the 10 ruptured achillies in NFL training camps have come from the Chiefs?

Skyy God · 08-15-2011, 11:08 AM

PK, ever the moron.

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Today, Kansas City Chiefs (St. Joseph, Mo.). Losing 25-0 to Tampa Bay at home Friday night will make for an uncomfortable practice day, I would imagine.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1V7OVMfAt

Epic Fail 007 · 08-15-2011, 11:14 AM

I hate anything preseason,its means nothing

Blick · 08-15-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by warispeace

Obviously, you have to strike a balance somewhere in between. This season, I think conditioning and staying healthy is going to be even more important than it has been in the past.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

If other teams are hitting then don't they have the edge in conditioning?

Good point here by Chiefnj2.

Also, we have to stop being scared of injuries. It's part of the game. The Packers won the Super Bowl last year with like 16 guys on IR or something like that. Good teams battle through injuries.

Epic Fail 007 · 08-15-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

I'm okay with the Chiefs approach. These games don't mean anything.

Just more than ever I wish there was a 2 game preseason. 3 more games to go like this sounds like a long time.

I wish there were only 2 preseason games 4 is way too many.

08-15-2011, 02:27 AM
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