SI: Contract talks with LJ and Gonzo have stalled - Page 2

tk13 · 12-21-2006, 04:37 AM

This is from SI's rumors and news yesterday morning, I didn't see it posted anywhere. I don't know how accurate it is, SI put it as their top little news blip. They apparently got this from NFL.com but I couldn't find where... but I didn't look very hard. I know Gonzo is going to be a FA, I guess contract extension talks with LJ aren't going well either...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...tion=si_latest

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Kansas City talks aimed at new contracts for future free agents Larry Johnson and Tony Gonzalez have stalled. With so many teams so flush with money, Gonzalez could hit a bonanza on the open market, as would Johnson.
-- NFL.com

InChiefsHeaven · 12-21-2006, 07:41 AM

This is ridiculous. They are just piling on because we have basically shot ourselves in the foot this season and secretly they all hate the Chiefs...maybe not so secretly...

...it's a conspiracy I tell ya!!

**BigRedChief** · 12-21-2006, 07:44 AM

Here's a new thought............
If the Chiefs franchise Tony G. they can't use the franchise tag on anyone else for the length of the contract correct? So lets say if....they franchise Tony G and then LJ starts holding out, wanting a trade they won't have the franchise stick to smack his agent with during negoiations

**the Talking Can** · 12-21-2006, 07:58 AM

I think Tony wants out, can't blame him.

We need to rebuild and resign LJ.

CP needs to put aside his ego and move Gonzo. But that would mean admitting that we are rebuilding, something CP has never done.

Chiefnj · 12-21-2006, 08:09 AM

A 7 year contract is never a 7 year contract these days. There are always voidable years.

LJ's contract is voidable to 5 years. Next year would be the last year of his contract with KC. With his recent comments about Herm and the coaching staff, I doubt he'd want to redo his contract right now.

I disagree that LJ has anyone over a barrel. If he wants to hold out, he can hold out and pay fines up the wazoo.

CupidStunt · 12-21-2006, 08:19 AM

No one will pay what LJ wants (in 2008) if he holds out an entire season.

RBs are a dime-a-dozen, he'd be getting up there in age, has character questions... no one would touch him, and he and his agent know this.

Demonpenz · 12-21-2006, 08:24 AM

it will be hard if gonzo goes to the hall with a different team

Chiefnj · 12-21-2006, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

it will be hard if gonzo goes to the hall with a different team

In the NFL you don't go to the hall with a team. You go as a player.

Simplex3 · 12-21-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

it will be hard if gonzo goes to the hall with a different team

That would be f**king awesome. The ultimate smack in the face for Carl.

htismaqe · 12-21-2006, 09:37 AM

As much as it pains me to say it, LJ is really not someone you can "rebuild" around, because chances are he's not even around in 2-3 years. This many carries is going to take a toll on his body.

mrdad45 · 12-21-2006, 10:55 AM

Honestly, and I might (probably) get blasted for this, but I would definitely make a trade. However, my trade would include LJ, if he wanted out of KC (which I personally think he does). Think about it...we have way too many holes to fix on both sides of the ball to be serious contenders within the next 2 years and the way we are running LJ...I honestly think he will, at best, have this kind of burst for another 3-4 years. Now, don't get me wrong, keeping him would be fine (I mean he is top 3 RUNNING back in league)...however I do not see him as a COMPLETE back yet, and I do not know if he will ever be. Now, if we can get two 1st round picks for him either this year or next year as we franchise him...this will allow us to become younger and obtain better talent within the draft (hopefully Carl!). There will be some pretty good backs coming out within the next couple of drafts, if I'm not mistaken...so use one of the firsts on a RB then start filling holes. Just my thoughts over the past few weeks.

L.A. Chieffan · 12-21-2006, 11:06 AM

I'm on the Jo Po bandwagon.

2-14 here we come!!!!!

Mr. Laz · 12-21-2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Here's a new thought............
If the Chiefs franchise Tony G. they can't use the franchise tag on anyone else for the length of the contract correct? So lets say if....they franchise Tony G and then LJ starts holding out, wanting a trade they won't have the franchise stick to smack his agent with during negoiations

we don't need to franchise LJ as long as he's still under contract

if we franchise tony:

1. he signs 1 year deal and we get franchise tag back next year

2. he signs 1 year deal and then signs long term deal after july 1st ... in which case we get franchise tag back next year.

3. we tag and trade him .... in which case we get franchise tag back next year.

KingPriest2 · 12-21-2006, 11:46 AM

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9880915

**Anyong Bluth** · 12-21-2006, 11:59 AM

I'm thinking Tony is torn between staying to finish it out and going somewhere to win one. I know CP will take care of him cash wise- but with so much FA $$, who knows what teams will toss his way- like a NO's.

I hope he stays, just as long as he doesn't goto Denver I'll wish him well, though

FloridaMan88 · 12-21-2006, 12:51 PM

Carl sure has the Chiefs' future looking like a giant pile of shit

12-21-2006, 07:41 AM	#16
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12-21-2006, 07:44 AM	#17
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12-21-2006, 07:58 AM	#18
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	I think Tony wants out, can't blame him. We need to rebuild and resign LJ. CP needs to put aside his ego and move Gonzo. But that would mean admitting that we are rebuilding, something CP has never done. __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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12-21-2006, 08:09 AM	#19
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	A 7 year contract is never a 7 year contract these days. There are always voidable years. LJ's contract is voidable to 5 years. Next year would be the last year of his contract with KC. With his recent comments about Herm and the coaching staff, I doubt he'd want to redo his contract right now. I disagree that LJ has anyone over a barrel. If he wants to hold out, he can hold out and pay fines up the wazoo. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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12-21-2006, 08:19 AM	#20
CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $2223332	No one will pay what LJ wants (in 2008) if he holds out an entire season. RBs are a dime-a-dozen, he'd be getting up there in age, has character questions... no one would touch him, and he and his agent know this.
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12-21-2006, 08:24 AM	#21
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12-21-2006, 09:37 AM	#24
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	As much as it pains me to say it, LJ is really not someone you can "rebuild" around, because chances are he's not even around in 2-3 years. This many carries is going to take a toll on his body.
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12-21-2006, 10:55 AM	#25
mrdad45 Starter Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Raytown, MO Casino cash: $8508125	Honestly, and I might (probably) get blasted for this, but I would definitely make a trade. However, my trade would include LJ, if he wanted out of KC (which I personally think he does). Think about it...we have way too many holes to fix on both sides of the ball to be serious contenders within the next 2 years and the way we are running LJ...I honestly think he will, at best, have this kind of burst for another 3-4 years. Now, don't get me wrong, keeping him would be fine (I mean he is top 3 RUNNING back in league)...however I do not see him as a COMPLETE back yet, and I do not know if he will ever be. Now, if we can get two 1st round picks for him either this year or next year as we franchise him...this will allow us to become younger and obtain better talent within the draft (hopefully Carl!). There will be some pretty good backs coming out within the next couple of drafts, if I'm not mistaken...so use one of the firsts on a RB then start filling holes. Just my thoughts over the past few weeks.
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12-21-2006, 11:06 AM	#26
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