Who would you keep on defense? - Page 2

ChiefsCountry · 11-29-2004, 12:14 PM

Here is who I would keep on the defense.

DE - Jimmy Wilkerson, Gary Stills
DT - Ryan Sims
DT - Lional Dalton, Junior Siavii
DE - Jared Allen
LB - Scott Fujitia, Keyaron Fox
LB - Monty Beisel
LB - Shawn Barber, Quinton Caver
CB - Eric Warfield
CB - Benny Sapp
SS - Greg Wesley, Willie Pile
FS - Shaunard Harts, Julian Battle

I hate to cut John Browning but he is getting up in years and is salary is going up. Hicks, McCleon, Holliday, Mitchell, Bartee, and Woods need to be shown the door. Some guys could use a position change like Battle. He was All-SEC at safety which should say something. He might come around but he could be a hell of a safety IMO. Some guys like Caver and Beisel are nice backups and great special team players.

Free Agency/Draft
#1 CB
Stud MLB
Solid All-Around DE
CB Depth
Veteran Backup DE
More Depth on Defense

**Rausch** · 11-29-2004, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I think that is why the NFL needs a better developmental league than NFL Europe. If the NFL had a minor league where the team could send some players to get reps in and if was more like the NFL then it could be a very big win win situation for the NFL.

What I really don't like is that certain players don't qualify for NFLE. I think players like LJ and Battle could really benefit from the playing time...

Scaga · 11-29-2004, 01:38 PM

I'd keep the waterboy and scrap the rest of it....

~that's some good H2O~

Mr. Laz · 11-29-2004, 01:59 PM

easier to just say who's gone... cause we got alot of guys with new contracts or just drafted etc.

gone:
Holliday
Barber
Woods (after june 1st)
McCleon

demoted to backup role or special teams:

Bartee(4th CB and special teams)
warfield(nickle)
hicks (shouldnt be on team, but just got new contract)
browning (moved to strictly DE)
mitchell (special teams)

primary defensive needs:

2 starting cornerbacks
MLB
OLB
stud DE (either side)

Scaga · 11-29-2004, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

easier to just say who's gone... cause we got alot of guys with new contracts or just drafted etc.

gone:
Holliday
Barber
Woods (after june 1st)
McCleon

demoted to backup role or special teams:

Bartee(4th CB and special teams)
warfield(nickle)
hicks (shouldnt be on team, but just got new contract)
browning (moved to strictly DE)
mitchell (special teams)

primary defensive needs:

2 starting cornerbacks
MLB
OLB
stud DE (either side)

Ding, Ding, Ding

We have a winner.

Although I'd prolly say
1 starting CB
MLB
The other starting CB
OLB
DE

AND ANYBODY...ANYBODY...THAT CAN COVER A BOOTLEG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

HC_Chief · 11-29-2004, 02:30 PM

DE - Allen, Stills (ST), Browning
DT - Sims(reduced pay), Dalton, Siavii
LB - Fujitia
CB - Warfield, Sapp, Bartee
SS - Wesley, Pile, Harts

Everyone else should go. (exception: Beisel - ST)

Pants · 11-29-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

maybe wesley too, but that's seriously about it. Some guys could be good, but haven't shown me any reason to believ they are this season, or last seaosn for that matter.

Is you stoopid? What about Jared Allen? He is an absolute monster.

**Saulbadguy** · 11-29-2004, 02:34 PM

All of them. I like our guys. They are in the first year of Gunthers defensive scheme. We will continue to improve on defense, and do things better. We don't need any big name high priced free agents. We like our guys.

::ducks for cover::

shakesthecat · 11-29-2004, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

All of them. I like our guys. They are in the first year of Gunthers defensive scheme. We will continue to improve on defense, and do things better. We don't need any big name high priced free agents. We like our guys.

::ducks for cover::

BAN HIM!

Logical · 11-29-2004, 02:39 PM

DE - Jimmy Wilkerson, Gary Stills
DT - Ryan Sims
DT - Lional Dalton, Junior Siavii
DE - Jared Allen
LB - Scott Fujitia, Keyaron Fox
LB - Monty Beisel

CB - Eric Warfield

SS - Greg Wesley, Willie Pile
FS - Shaunard Harts, Julian Battle

Of those I am not sold on Wilkerson (not enough progress), Stills (evidently his Pro Bowl play was an aberration), Siavii (but too early to totally give up), Fujita (I am starting to sour on him, very unimpressive this year)

But you cannot discard all the others and these as well and fill them back up in one offseason.

**Saulbadguy** · 11-29-2004, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shakesthecat

BAN HIM!

Twas my best Vermeil/Peterson impression...

Logical · 11-29-2004, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

All of them. I like our guys. They are in the first year of Gunthers defensive scheme. We will continue to improve on defense, and do things better. We don't need any big name high priced free agents. We like our guys.

::ducks for cover::

I assume this was a beautiful exhibition of the fine art of sarcasm.

cmh6476 · 11-29-2004, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Is you stoopid? What about Jared Allen? He is an absolute monster.

I quoted my original post which included Allen.

I see some aren't hip with keeping Warfield. Once again I say, he has been the biggest surprise on D and IMO has played very well this season. It's the rest of the scrubs that's killin us.

ChiefsCountry · 11-29-2004, 04:16 PM

Warfield has developed into a solid #2 CB.

HC_Chief · 11-29-2004, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Warfield has developed into a solid #2 CB.

Tackles like a bitch.

Correction: doesn't tackle at all... pushes receivers 10-15+ yards down the field towards sideline like a bitch.

RedNFeisty · 11-29-2004, 04:28 PM

Jared Allen, and I like Siavii.

11-29-2004, 12:14 PM
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $1758752	Who would you keep on defense? Here is who I would keep on the defense. DE - Jimmy Wilkerson, Gary Stills DT - Ryan Sims DT - Lional Dalton, Junior Siavii DE - Jared Allen LB - Scott Fujitia, Keyaron Fox LB - Monty Beisel LB - Shawn Barber, Quinton Caver CB - Eric Warfield CB - Benny Sapp SS - Greg Wesley, Willie Pile FS - Shaunard Harts, Julian Battle I hate to cut John Browning but he is getting up in years and is salary is going up. Hicks, McCleon, Holliday, Mitchell, Bartee, and Woods need to be shown the door. Some guys could use a position change like Battle. He was All-SEC at safety which should say something. He might come around but he could be a hell of a safety IMO. Some guys like Caver and Beisel are nice backups and great special team players. Free Agency/Draft #1 CB Stud MLB Solid All-Around DE CB Depth Veteran Backup DE More Depth on Defense
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11-29-2004, 01:38 PM	#17
Scaga Pissed off now Joboo Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my wife's $hitlist Casino cash: $3441665	I'd keep the waterboy and scrap the rest of it.... ~that's some good H2O~ __________________ Bluto: Christ. Seven years of college down the drain. Might as well join the f_cking Peace Corps
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11-29-2004, 01:59 PM	#18
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	easier to just say who's gone... cause we got alot of guys with new contracts or just drafted etc. gone: Holliday Barber Woods (after june 1st) McCleon demoted to backup role or special teams: Bartee(4th CB and special teams) warfield(nickle) hicks (shouldnt be on team, but just got new contract) browning (moved to strictly DE) mitchell (special teams) primary defensive needs: 2 starting cornerbacks MLB OLB stud DE (either side) __________________
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11-29-2004, 02:30 PM	#20
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	DE - Allen, Stills (ST), Browning DT - Sims(reduced pay), Dalton, Siavii LB - Fujitia CB - Warfield, Sapp, Bartee SS - Wesley, Pile, Harts Everyone else should go. (exception: Beisel - ST) __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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11-29-2004, 02:34 PM	#22
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $2096966	All of them. I like our guys. They are in the first year of Gunthers defensive scheme. We will continue to improve on defense, and do things better. We don't need any big name high priced free agents. We like our guys. ::ducks for cover::
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11-29-2004, 02:39 PM	#24
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	DE - Jimmy Wilkerson, Gary Stills DT - Ryan Sims DT - Lional Dalton, Junior Siavii DE - Jared Allen LB - Scott Fujitia, Keyaron Fox LB - Monty Beisel CB - Eric Warfield SS - Greg Wesley, Willie Pile FS - Shaunard Harts, Julian Battle Of those I am not sold on Wilkerson (not enough progress), Stills (evidently his Pro Bowl play was an aberration), Siavii (but too early to totally give up), Fujita (I am starting to sour on him, very unimpressive this year) But you cannot discard all the others and these as well and fill them back up in one offseason.
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11-29-2004, 04:16 PM	#28
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $1758752	Warfield has developed into a solid #2 CB.
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11-29-2004, 04:28 PM	#30
RedNFeisty Smokin Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10004900	Jared Allen, and I like Siavii. __________________ F.O.C.U.S sportsshrink: Don't bite the hand that feeds you!!!! "We the Fans" feed you Morons!!
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