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Carlota69 · 10-11-2011, 05:23 PM

http://jacobsmediablog.com/2011/10/10/kickass/

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [October 11, 2011 at 5:44pm CST]
Boston GM Theo Epstein is "on the cusp" of leaving the Red Sox for a job with the Cubs, according to Steve Buckley of the Boston Herald. Red Sox ownership still hopes to retain Epstein and if he is to leave, Boston will demand "something real" as compensation.

Epstein's proposed deal with the Cubs would include more power than he has in Boston, according to Buckley. The teams could make an announcement within a day or two and the situation will be "resolved very soon."

When Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts outlined his ideal GM candidate after firing Jim Hendry, he said he wanted someone with a commitment to player development and a strong analytical background who came from a background of success. Epstein, who became Boston's GM in 2002, certainly qualifies.

The Red Sox won two World Series titles under Epstein (2004, 2007) and have made six playoff appearances since 2003. They missed the postseason for the second consecutive year in 2011 after a September slide that cost manager Terry Francona his job. Our Transaction Tracker has every one of Epstein's moves as GM. Check out Tim Dierkes' look ahead to the Cubs' offseason for a preview of Epstein's first winter in the Windy City.

If this happens, guess where Pujols is going....

whoman69 · 10-11-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Personally, I'd rather have Friedman because of what he does with no bank roll. But, although the Cubs aren't as big as Bostons market, he'll still have plenty of bank roll to buy a couple of WS.

Unfortunately that money is tied up in current player contracts that will be difficult to move.

whoman69 · 10-11-2011, 06:53 PM

Cubs fans are smoking Billie goat dung if they think they will get Pujols.

Sannyasi · 10-11-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ

I'm not an Epstein fan or Red Sox fan but I don't understand why anyone would say "he's the last person I would want at GM". The Lackey signing was bad but the Gonzalez trade was great. Crawford had a bad season but that doesn't mean signing him was a bad decision. I'm an Orioles fan and I'd be quite happy to have the guy as GM. He's probably a bit overrated because of the Boston thing and the Moneyball thing but I think most teams could do worse.

Not to mention Epstein wanted no part of signing Lackey.

Rams Fan · 10-11-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ

I'm not an Epstein fan or Red Sox fan but I don't understand why anyone would say "he's the last person I would want at GM". The Lackey signing was bad but the Gonzalez trade was great. Crawford had a bad season but that doesn't mean signing him was a bad decision. I'm an Orioles fan and I'd be quite happy to have the guy as GM. He's probably a bit overrated because of the Boston thing and the Moneyball thing but I think most teams could do worse.

I don't think Theo's a bad GM. I think he's above average and has made some poor decisions, but what GMs don't? I'm not saying the Crawford signing was a bad one(I think he'll rebound next season), but so many, many, many people overrate Theo.

I also think he misses Jed Hoyer a bit.

jd1020 · 10-11-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

Unfortunately that money is tied up in current player contracts that will be difficult to move.

Well aware of that, being a Cubs fan, but there's around 30mil coming off the books this offseason. And with Zambrano having his foot in the door down in Miami thats 1 more terrible contract off the books. He'll have plenty of money to do something this offseason. Much more than last offseason where the big thing was signing Pena to a 10mil deal with only 5 of it due this year.

jd1020 · 10-11-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

Cubs fans are smoking Billie goat dung if they think they will get Pujols.

They have the money to pull it off but I would hope to hell they wouldnt cave in to his demands. Personally I'd rather go for Fielder but if Pujols goes for a 6-7 year deal I wouldnt have anything against it.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-11-2011, 08:23 PM

No way Prince Fielder's body holds up with that off-balance, full-tilt swing and his fatass build.

I'd be terrified to give that guy a contract.

Carlota69 · 10-11-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi

Not to mention Epstein wanted no part of signing Lackey.

I had not heard that. Do you have a link? Id love to show my fellow Angel fans.

I cant think of a GM that didnt make bad deal. I also believe you could do a ton worse than Theo Epstein. Tony Reagins comes to mind.

Carlota69 · 10-11-2011, 08:44 PM

8:25pm: ESPN's Karl Ravech hears that the compensation would involve prospects and/or cash, but no MLB players. Pete Abraham of the Boston Globe hears that the Red Sox wouldn't saddle the Cubs with bad contracts in the proposed arrangement and notes that Epstein remains undecided about the possible change (Twitter links).

8:05pm: Epstein would need Boston's approval to bring employees with him to Chicago, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney (on Twitter). Carrie Muskat of MLB.com hears that the Cubs made an offer and Epstein is now deciding whether to leave the Red Sox (Twitter link).

7:20pm: Epstein's nearing a deal with the Cubs, Sean McAdam of CSNNE.com confirms. The deal isn't done yet, as some issues other than compensation have to be resolved. Meanwhile, Yahoo's Tim Brown hears that Red Sox ownership is making a play to keep Epstein, but won't ask him to continue in a job he doesn't want (Twitter link

Rams Fan · 10-11-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

I had not heard that. Do you have a link? Id love to show my fellow Angel fans.

I cant think of a GM that didnt make bad deal. I also believe you could do a ton worse than Theo Epstein. Tony Reagins comes to mind.

What no one mentions is that Anthulpolos traded Napoli for Frank ****ing Francisco.

Demonpenz · 10-11-2011, 09:00 PM

reading JOPOs article about giving alot of chedda to players over 30 is scary

Carlota69 · 10-11-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

What no one mentions is that Anthulpolos traded Napoli for Frank ****ing Francisco.

No. Reagins wins the "I suck more" award on that deal by trading Napoli for Wells and his worst contract in baseball. Besides, correct if Im wrong, but isnt that Riccardi that traded Naps and got rid of Wells? Anthulpolos was already blown out by the Jays at that point right? Or am I confused?

Sannyasi · 10-11-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

I had not heard that. Do you have a link? Id love to show my fellow Angel fans.

I cant think of a GM that didnt make bad deal. I also believe you could do a ton worse than Theo Epstein. Tony Reagins comes to mind.

Couldn't find a link, sorry. I've heard Bill Simmons say on his podcast multiple times that ownership forced the Lackey signing on Epstein in order to generate hype for the team. I wasn't aware that this was just a rumor/his opinion. Apologies.

Demonpenz · 10-11-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No way Prince Fielder's body holds up with that off-balance, full-tilt swing and his fatass build.

I'd be terrified to give that guy a contract.

yeah.

Rams Fan · 10-11-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

No. Reagins wins the "I suck more" award on that deal by trading Napoli for Wells and his worst contract in baseball. Besides, correct if Im wrong, but isnt that Riccardi that traded Naps and got rid of Wells? Anthulpolos was already blown out by the Jays at that point right? Or am I confused?

Anthupolos has been the GM full time since 2010.

Anthupolos deserves a bunch of credit for dumping Wells' contract, but he got rid of Napoli for Francisco.

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