Chiefs Late night bullshit: doing the Geno thing again. - Page 2

Direckshun · 03-11-2013, 09:24 PM

So if the Chiefs pull off the following moves:

1. lock up a starting DE like Dorsey/DeVito/Jason Jones

2. re-sign Branden Albert

3. ink a starting corner like DRC

Then that means we'll have a hole at pretty much two positions:

backup, developmental QB behind Alex Smith

and

right tackle

(and sam-backer, I guess, but Reid's not going to draft an ILB #1 overall)

The decision boils down to the safest possible pick in Luke Joeckel and the big-ballsy risk of Geno Smith.

I absolutely cannot accept the idea that Geno Smith is out of consideration.

We've got two potential right tackles on our roster now.

This team is mostly built. There are no huge, glaring deficiencies other than Alex Smith.

The secondary will have seven players with significant starting experience (Berry, Robinson, Abdullah, Lewis, Flowers, DRC, Arenas).

The WR corps could be beefed up, but features two receivers Andy Reid loves in Bowe and McCluster.

A tough defensive line. A good pair of bookend passrushers.

The Chiefs have a very experienced starting QB for Geno to sit behind.

And that starting QB was himself a 1st overall pick, and could mentor Geno through the worst aspects of it.

Geno's skillset beautifully matches a west coast offense.

It just makes too much sense to say no to. Too much sense.

Here's what I'll say:

If my plan was to bring in Geno Smith with the #1 pick, knowing what I know about him, then this is how I prep my team for his arrival.

I sit him for the year, let Alex fight for his reputation, and keep Geno comfortable with the clipboard for as long as Alex isn't shitting his pants.

This is what you'd do, right? The Chiefs haven't made any buzz with backup QBs. They've not commented on Stanzi. They haven't talked to anybody other than the QBs in this draft.

They don't want to burn the 1st overall on a right tackle. Surely not.

**RealSNR** · 03-11-2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

I myself, have wondered what the infatuation is. I dont know if people see RG3 in him. I just dont see it. I really dont.

Go **** your mother. And RG3.

Geno never is or was RG3. I hope RG3 kills himself so people can stop saying "Is Geno another RG3?" By virtue of simply being alive, no, Geno is not RG3.

Hammock Parties · 03-11-2013, 09:44 PM

The DL is ass right now so let's not call it "tough."

keg in kc · 03-11-2013, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

After ASmith, you have Dick Stanzi. We have RTs on the roster. Unless the Chiefs get another backup QB (or two), we are going with Geno.

I never said they were taking a tackle. Although I think they may if they can't trade back. But that's really a mutually-exclusive idea to me, with regards to QB. It doesn't have any bearing on what I believe as far as Geno goes.

I just believe there's 0% chance they're taking a QB with 1:1. They aren't trading 2nds for Alex Smith if they haven't already penciled him in as the starter. And they aren't drafting a project QB at 1. Now, I personally don't think Geno is a project, but when you have a starter in place (and they do now), then he's going to be one by default. And I think they're going to want immediate return on a number 1 pick. I don't believe they're going to spend a pick that high on a guy with the express intention of putting him on the bench and waiting years to see what they have.

My thinking would be different if they hadn't given up so much for Alex Smith. They bring him in as a free agent, and we're having a different discussion. But they didn't do that. They're not spending what they did if they expect him to be a placeholder for a year.

mcaj22 · 03-11-2013, 09:46 PM

"this team is mostly built"

hahahahahah yea right, funny joke

Imon Yourside · 03-11-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

I can't wait until after the draft when the mediocre Geno Smith begins to slowly fade away.

I can wait for that stupiduality, I really can.

Saccopoo · 03-11-2013, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

I myself, have wondered what the infatuation is. I dont know if people see RG3 in him. I just dont see it. I really dont.

The infatuation is that the guy can put a ball downfield 45 yards right into a receivers hands that is going full out with two defenders hanging on him.

And he does it every goddamn game. He makes those types of throws that 99% of college QB's make once or twice in their careers, and he does it routinely.

He keeps his head downfield, eyes up, and has great pocket awareness.

He's got an exceptionally quick release that's near textbook, has an arm that can make all the throws.

He's a film junkie. He just wants to play football.

He's got all the tools that you want from a high level NFL prospect plus the work ethic and drive.

He's experienced with three years of starting at the D1 level and was a former Parade All-American as a prep at the QB position.

If you don't see it, then you are a ****ing idiot who should be looking at cereal boxes instead of football games.

**J Diddy** · 03-11-2013, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Stanzi is a backup. We're not using the #1 pick on a backup. Geno is not a backup.

Geno is a future starting QB.

Geno is a future starting QB in the same way that tofu is a meal to ethiopians.

If it's all that you got, it's all you got.

**Mav** · 03-11-2013, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Who is trading up with us? No one has offered convincing evidence for why/how this will happen.

just wait till after the pro days.

**Mav** · 03-11-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Go **** your mother. And RG3.

Geno never is or was RG3. I hope RG3 kills himself so people can stop saying "Is Geno another RG3?" By virtue of simply being alive, no, Geno is not RG3.

well, i know hes not RG3. Hes more Dennis Dixon to me. Im not on the kool aid. I guess though, if i hated alex smith as much as some do, i would pray for anyone but alex smith.

Geno, is not worth the first pick in the draft. No one thinks so. No one has even mentioned it.

**J Diddy** · 03-11-2013, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Why have the Chiefs made zero buzz at the QB position other than the Alex Smith splash?

Is there a single rookie QB that's worth his weight as a backup QB that you see being available at 3a?

I want you to evaluate your question objectively.

Why haven't the Chiefs made zero buzz (besides trading away the 1st pick in the 2nd round and future considerations) at the qb position?

Who's to say Stanzi isn't the backup and a scrubs 3, maybe Reid like the fact that Tanney can hit a moving truck blindfolded and drunk from 39 yards out?

crossbow · 03-11-2013, 09:52 PM

Why would the Chiefs draft any QB when they can go after and over pay for one of Frisco's every couple of years? They aren't going to draft a QB this year or any damn year because that is how these jackasses roll.

**Canofbier** · 03-11-2013, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

I myself, have wondered what the infatuation is. I dont know if people see RG3 in him. I just dont see it. I really dont.

He has the physical potential, attitude and work ethic to be an Aaron Rogers, which is more than you could say about any QB in recent Chiefs history. The only people who compare Geno to RGIII as an overall player are either lazy or are just stereotyping. He is a pass-first QB with good arm strength and accuracy who happens to also be a very strong athlete.

Geno "isn't an Andrew Luck", as so many people like to point out, but he is certainly in the same class as other QBs that have gone high in the first round in recent history. Alex Smith is NOT a franchise-caliber QB. Chiefs fans are tired of retreads and they're tired of settling.

We have the first overall pick for the first time ever, and for once we want to see our team roll the dice on a QB that has the potential to not only be one of the best in the game, but possibly lead us to a Super Bowl. You don't have to agree with drafting Geno at 1.1, but to not understand that sentiment means that you haven't loved the Chiefs for long, if ever.

keg in kc · 03-11-2013, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

Geno, is not worth the first pick in the draft. No one thinks so. No one has even mentioned it.

Except for all those people that do and have.

**RealSNR** · 03-11-2013, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy

Geno is a future starting QB in the same way that tofu is a meal to ethiopians.

If it's all that you got, it's all you got.

Here's why these arguments don't work with you.

I can pull up gifs, videos, and scouting reports. I can use logic. I can use stats. I have used ALL of these methods to argue for Geno.

And at the end of my lengthy and numerous posts on the subject, you'll do what you just did, ("I think Geno sucks") and you won the argument.

You're underselling Geno Smith by a lot. A ****ing LOT. And never once have you acknowledged that.

Simply Red · 03-11-2013, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

well, i know hes not RG3.

03-11-2013, 09:24 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4133447	Late night bullshit: doing the Geno thing again. So if the Chiefs pull off the following moves: 1. lock up a starting DE like Dorsey/DeVito/Jason Jones 2. re-sign Branden Albert 3. ink a starting corner like DRC Then that means we'll have a hole at pretty much two positions: backup, developmental QB behind Alex Smith and right tackle (and sam-backer, I guess, but Reid's not going to draft an ILB #1 overall) The decision boils down to the safest possible pick in Luke Joeckel and the big-ballsy risk of Geno Smith. I absolutely cannot accept the idea that Geno Smith is out of consideration. We've got two potential right tackles on our roster now. This team is mostly built. There are no huge, glaring deficiencies other than Alex Smith. The secondary will have seven players with significant starting experience (Berry, Robinson, Abdullah, Lewis, Flowers, DRC, Arenas). The WR corps could be beefed up, but features two receivers Andy Reid loves in Bowe and McCluster. A tough defensive line. A good pair of bookend passrushers. The Chiefs have a very experienced starting QB for Geno to sit behind. And that starting QB was himself a 1st overall pick, and could mentor Geno through the worst aspects of it. Geno's skillset beautifully matches a west coast offense. It just makes too much sense to say no to. Too much sense. Here's what I'll say: If my plan was to bring in Geno Smith with the #1 pick, knowing what I know about him, then this is how I prep my team for his arrival. I sit him for the year, let Alex fight for his reputation, and keep Geno comfortable with the clipboard for as long as Alex isn't shitting his pants. This is what you'd do, right? The Chiefs haven't made any buzz with backup QBs. They've not commented on Stanzi. They haven't talked to anybody other than the QBs in this draft. They don't want to burn the 1st overall on a right tackle. Surely not.
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