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Old 12-15-2013, 07:02 PM  
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Jamaal Charles Vs Adrian Peterson.
Here is how Charles compares through week 15 than AP did in 2012 when he won the MVP .

Total Yards: Charles - 1,836. Peterson - 2,023

Yards Per Play: Charles - 5.9. Peterson - 6.2

Touchdowns: Charles - 18. Peterson - 11

Team Record: Charles - 11-3. Peterson - 8-8
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:50 PM   #16
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I think Charles is more versatile. Peterson may be a better pure runner. I would take Charles over Peterson on this team because I think he fits Reid's offense better.
I disagree.

They both have outstanding vision, patience, and acceleration.

AP is more powerful, while Charles is faster.
Of course, AP is fast himself, while Charles is stronger than given credit for.

And Ace is right for once.
AP has always run behind a better line.

5.6 vs 5.0
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:56 PM   #17
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I disagree.

They both have outstanding vision, patience, and acceleration.

AP is more powerful, while Charles is faster.
Of course, AP is fast himself, while Charles is stronger than given credit for.

And Ace is right for once.
AP has always run behind a better line.

5.6 vs 5.0
Yeah, but I was talking about how Charles is used. He can run, he can (obviously) do a lot of damage on screen passes, and he can line up as a WR. He brings a lot of versatility to Reid's offense that I don't think you get with Peterson.

Your comment really had nothing to do with my post. I'm not even sure what you are disagreeing with.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:57 PM   #18
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I think he was trying to say that Jamaal is actually a better pure rusher as well.

At least thats how I took it.
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:07 PM   #19
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Nobody really cares about NFL MVP, but Peyton's going to get it and probably deserves it.

Charles is great and has had a great year, but I think RBs are judged more on their rushing yards.

AD had 2100 yards (6.0 avg) just rushing. That's pretty awesome.
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:31 PM   #20
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:57 PM   #21
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As much as I hate him and the Donks, he deserves it. He has had a great season. His ability to put a pass into the tightest places is amazing. There are several plays in every game of theirs I've seen this year where the DB literally couldn't cover the WR better, yet he still puts it in there and gets a completion. Frustrating for a Chiefs fan, but he is one of the all time greats.
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:04 PM   #23
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I didn't think AP deserved it and I don't think Charles does.

Charles has had a great year and everything, but a legitimate argument could be made Alex Smith is the Chiefs Offensive MVP. I'm not a huge Alex Smith fan and would probably vote for Charles over Smith, but it wouldn't be a slam dunk even for me. QB's are where the action is.
I'm a little surprised nobody has blasted you for this post.

I think Alex Smith has done an excellent job, but there is no way I'd vote for him over Jamaal.
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AP was going to comment on this but his ice pack fell off his knee.
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Take Manning off of Denver and they are a grease fire.


Take Jamaal off of the Chiefs and we are still a very good team.
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:32 PM   #26
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I didn't think AP deserved it and I don't think Charles does.

Charles has had a great year and everything, but a legitimate argument could be made Alex Smith is the Chiefs Offensive MVP. I'm not a huge Alex Smith fan and would probably vote for Charles over Smith, but it wouldn't be a slam dunk even for me. QB's are where the action is.
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I think he was trying to say that Jamaal is actually a better pure rusher as well.

At least thats how I took it.
Not necessarily better.

Different styles, but equal.
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Take Manning off of Denver and they are a grease fire.


Take Jamaal off of the Chiefs and we are still a very good team.
Probably true, but that's more because QB is more important in todays game than RBs are.
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Take Manning off of Denver and they are a grease fire.


Take Jamaal off of the Chiefs and we are still a very good team.
Take jamaal off the Chiefs and I can guarantee you a bunch of those first half wins turn into losses. Alex Smith was not very sharp for many of those games, and we won those games by a hair. And that's considering that defenses were gunning for the run, daring Smith to throw deep.

First half of the season, no defense paid any attention to our passing game, our run blocking was a mess, and our QB was forcing all defenders into the box. JC absolutely belongs in the MVP conversation.
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