Why not Kellen Moore ?

[OzarksChiefsFan]

There may be the second coming of Drew Brees in this years draft. Kellen Moore is a coaches son who has incredible accuracy and pocket awareness. Here's a link.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...b-kellen-moore

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Gotta stay away from lefty and USC QBs. They are all bad. Every last one of them.

Steve Young, Boomer Esiason, Ken Stabler...was anyone else worth a shit? Drawing a blank.

edit - Brunell, Vick, but they never won shit.

[OzarksChiefsFan]

The guy has a 50/3 record as a starter and NFL scouts say he has great pocket presence. He is the same size as Drew Brees and has compiled better college stats. Something about guys that win translates better to the NFL than guys with size. I think he will be a better pro than Cousins for sure who has an NFL body. I still remember this QB drafted by the niners in the third round that was too skinny and rag armed that all he did in college was win....

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Omega

Steve Young, Boomer Esiason, Ken Stabler...was anyone else worth a shit? Drawing a blank.

edit - Brunell, Vick, but they never won shit.

Care to compare the number of lefty QBs to righty QBs? Not just ones that made it.

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by Omega

Steve Young, Boomer Esiason, Ken Stabler...was anyone else worth a shit? Drawing a blank.

edit - Brunell, Vick, but they never won shit.

1942-1952 - Frankie Albert
1943-1947 - Allie Sherman
1947 - Ernie Case
1956 - Fred Wyant
1963-1965 - Terry Baker
1968-1984 - Ken Stabler
1969-1978 - Bobby Douglass
1971-1975 - Jim Del Gaizo
1973-1974 - Dennis Morrison
1975-1984 - David Humm
1976-1987 - Jim Zorn
1980-1986 - Paul McDonald
1984-1997 - Boomer Esiason
1985-1999 - Steve Young
1989-1997 - Erik Wilhelm
1989-1992 - Jeff Carlson
1990-2001 - Scott Mitchell
1991-1992 - Todd Marinovich
1992-1997 - Will Furrer
1993-Present - Mark Brunell *
1994-1998 - Doug Nussmeier
1994-1998 - Steve Matthews
1997-1999 - Tony Graziani
1999-2003 - Brock Huard
1999-2002 - Cade McNown
2000-2001 - Matt Lytle
2001-2001 - Josh Heupel (Only played in training camp due to injury)
2001-Present - Michael Vick *
2003-Present - Chris Simms *
2003-2005 - Dave Ragone
2003-2004 - Greg Zolman
2004-2007 - Jared Lorenzen
2005-2005 - Stefan Lefors (Never played in a single game)
2005-2007 - David Greene (Never played in a single game)
2006-Present - Matt Leinart *
2009-2009 - Pat White (Joined MLB 9/10/10, retired from MLB 3/9/11)
2009-Present - Tyler Palko *
2010-Present - Tim Tebow *
2010-Present - Sean Canfield *

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Brennan was undersized with a weak arm?

He was light. Measured 6'3, 205 at the combine. For comparison, Aaron Rodgers is 6'2 225, Brady is 6'4 225, Brees 6'0 209.

Not a weak arm, but another guy from a smaller program who wasn't worth drafting yet some people salivated over.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by OzarksChiefsFan

The guy has a 50/3 record as a starter and NFL scouts say he has great pocket presence. He is the same size as Drew Brees and has compiled better college stats. Something about guys that win translates better to the NFL than guys with size. I think he will be a better pro than Cousins for sure who has an NFL body. I still remember this QB drafted by the niners in the third round that was too skinny and rag armed that all he did in college was win....

Brees was 6' 213lbs. Lets see what Moore comes in at. Plus, Brees had a stronger arm in college.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Brees was 6' 213lbs. Lets see what Moore comes in at. Plus, Brees had a stronger arm in college.

& played against tougher competition on a regular basis.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by OzarksChiefsFan

The guy has a 50/3 record as a starter and NFL scouts say he has great pocket presence. He is the same size as Drew Brees and has compiled better college stats. Something about guys that win translates better to the NFL than guys with size. I think he will be a better pro than Cousins for sure who has an NFL body. I still remember this QB drafted by the niners in the third round that was too skinny and rag armed that all he did in college was win....

Drew Brees (6'0 the bare minimum) has become the Muggsy Bogues of the NFL. One small guys makes it and all of a sudden every short person has a chance.

Lets see what he measures in at the combine. If he's 5'11? He's done.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Moore plays on a blue field. How many other successful qbs in the NFL came from an all blue field? Exactly

[OzarksChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Brees was 6' 213lbs. Lets see what Moore comes in at. Plus, Brees had a stronger arm in college.

Here is an excerpt from the NFLdraftscout on Brees at the combine.

"Lacks accuracy and touch on his long throws...Seems more comfortable in the short/intermediate passing attack...Does not possess the ideal height you look for in a pro passer, though his ability to scan the field helps him compensate in this area...Will improvise and run when the passing lanes are clogged, but tends to run through defenders rather than trying to avoid them to prevent unnecessary punishment."

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

& played against tougher competition on a regular basis.

To be fair, Moore played (and BEAT) some pretty damn good teams.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by OzarksChiefsFan

Here is an excerpt from the NFLdraftscout on Brees at the combine.

"Lacks accuracy and touch on his long throws...Seems more comfortable in the short/intermediate passing attack...Does not possess the ideal height you look for in a pro passer, though his ability to scan the field helps him compensate in this area...Will improvise and run when the passing lanes are clogged, but tends to run through defenders rather than trying to avoid them to prevent unnecessary punishment."

Brees averaged something like 5.3 yards per attempt his first 2 seasons in the NFL. He made Matt Cassel look like a long bomber.

[jd1020]

Look at that weak ass arm. Looks like Tyler Palko throwing the ball...

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

To be fair, Moore played (and BEAT) some pretty damn good teams.

This. Moore seems to have shown everything you'd like to see in a QB...aside from physically ability.

And BTW, just because Brees is short means dick.

Same ol' reeruned comparison.

But Brees is short (Moore)

But Brady was a late round Pick (every Late rnd Qb we think is a Franchise guy)

the list goes on and on.


These are called exceptions. And the list of Exceptions, people, is a very, very, very short list.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Brees averaged something like 5.3 yards per attempt his first 2 seasons in the NFL. He made Matt Cassel look like a long bomber.

Also true.

Everyone wants to act like Brees was some great QB coming out of college. He wasn't. He wasn't very good at all actually. He didn't start playing worth a shit till the Chargers took Rivers in the 1st. Then he had an 'ok' season.