Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-23-2004, 02:06 AM  
tk13 tk13 is offline
...
 
tk13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $512500
Whitlock: Vermeil sets team's whiny tone

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/10250469.htm

Vermeil sets team's whiny tone

JASON WHITLOCK


Grumpy old men were in style just a year ago. Their maturity, wisdom and patience were hailed as critical ingredients that could ignite a professional sports organization to success. Florida Marlins manager Jack McKeon and Chiefs head coach Dick Vermeil were seen as pro sports' new breed.

Now, a year later, grumpy old men look like grumpy old men.

Bill Parcells' Dallas Cowboys are 3-7. So is Joe Gibbs' Washington team. Vermeil's Chiefs entered Monday night's game against the defending champion New England Patriots with a 3-6 record and left Arrowhead Stadium with an identical record to the Cowboys and Washington.

Patriots 27, Chiefs 19.

NFL coaches in their 60s look lost and totally out of place.

Vermeil's Chiefs are the biggest disappointment. Coming off a 13-3 season, the Chiefs were expected to contend for the Super Bowl. Instead, midway through the season they're fighting for respectability. Regardless of the Chiefs' final record, that respectability will elude them if the Chiefs players continue to mimic their whiny, grumpy football coach.

Football teams often mirror their head coaches. Vermeil and his coaching staff have spent much of the season whining about officiating and whining about every piece of misfortune. The Chiefs, perhaps because of the constant whining of the coaching staff, are one of the most penalized teams in the NFL.

Vermeil, his staff and his players whine about every call. Monday night, with the nation watching, the Chiefs complained about every perceived missed pass-interference call. Trent Green threw an interception in the end zone just before halftime. He was trying to squeeze the ball into tight end Tony Gonzalez, who was covered by two defenders. Even before New England safety Rodney Harrison was tackled, Gonzalez and Green hunted down a referee and demanded to know why Harrison wasn't called for holding Gonzalez.

The ref should have asked Green why he ever threw the ball to Gonzalez. T.G. was never open. Not for the slightest second. Green made an error, but he blamed the official for it.

“You saw the play, didn't you?” Vermeil said disgustedly. “I'm not going to say anything about it.”

He added: “It was a low throw.”

That's typical Chiefs behavior. Vermeil can't believe the Chiefs aren't at the top of the AFC West and in playoff contention. It can't be his fault. He's not willing to take responsibility for Kansas City's failure. It shouldn't be a surprise that his players are unwilling to shoulder responsibility.

This all began last off-season. The Chiefs finished last season losing four of their last eight games, including a playoff game at home. With nine players selected to the Pro Bowl, the Chiefs celebrated in Hawaii as if they'd won the Super Bowl. No one took responsibility for last year's failure.

The Chiefs have a Super Bowl hangover… without the Super Bowl.

The offensive players blamed the defensive players. The defensive players blamed Greg Robinson. No one looked in the mirror, including KC's grumpy coach.

You have to wonder whether Vermeil is the right coach to move the Chiefs forward. His message has worn thin. I'm not sure he has the necessary energy or emotion to ignite this football team next season. Coaching in the NFL is for young men with lots and lots of energy. Vermeil might also be too nice for this situation. The Chiefs need a coach to come in and strike fear in the players. The Chiefs are financially committed to some underachieving players for next season. Jerome Woods, Greg Wesley, John Browning, Eric Hicks and William Bartee all received new contracts last offseason.

It's going to be difficult to overhaul KC's roster.

Kansas City's best offensive players are all well-established veterans. Will Shields, Willie Roaf, Trent Green and Priest Holmes are nearing the end of their careers or moving out of their prime years. Brian Waters and Tony Gonzalez are in their prime.

Besides Jared Allen, the Chiefs don't have any young players waiting in the wings. Running back Larry Johnson, the former first-round pick, must be one of the worst first-round picks in the history of the franchise. And that's saying something. For the second week in a row, without an injured Priest Holmes, Johnson didn't take an offensive snap. Derrick Blaylock carried the load for 60 minutes. The Chiefs have accomplished nothing this season and haven't set up anything for next year.

I'm sure Vermeil and his players will be whining about these facts all offseason.

Last edited by tk13; 11-23-2004 at 02:46 AM..
Posts: 55,507
tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:11 AM   #16
Demonpenz Demonpenz is offline
Woman should only make babies
 
Demonpenz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Apartment "G UNIT!"
Casino cash: $1816136
Actually it's my time to start watching ku basketball, and hoping they implode on national TV
__________________
Posts: 54,562
Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:12 AM   #17
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is online now
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $3210478
Demonpenz, you light up my life.
__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 285,976
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:21 AM   #18
tk13 tk13 is offline
...
 
tk13's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $512500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonpenz
it's about that time to turn our attention to the royals anyway
89 days until pitchers and catchers report! It's nice how baseball and football seasons kind of run together. The Super Bowl on Feb. 6th or whenever, baseball starts two weeks later... and while you're wading through preseason baseball you have the NCAA tourney to keep you company. Ahhh sports.
Posts: 55,507
tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:23 AM   #19
Demonpenz Demonpenz is offline
Woman should only make babies
 
Demonpenz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Apartment "G UNIT!"
Casino cash: $1816136
Quote:
Originally Posted by tk13
89 days until pitchers and catchers report! It's nice how baseball and football seasons kind of run together. The Super Bowl on Feb. 6th or whenever, baseball starts two weeks later... and while you're wading through preseason baseball you have the NCAA tourney to keep you company. Ahhh sports.
The cycle continues until you realize you've wasted your life away watching sports. On my deathbed I my last gasp will tell my family to make sure and update my fantasy roster.
__________________
Posts: 54,562
Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:24 AM   #20
KcMizzou KcMizzou is offline
Supporter
 
KcMizzou's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Parkville MO
Casino cash: $10005170
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonpenz
Actually it's my time to start watching ku basketball, and hoping they implode on national TV
Amen, brother.

By God, if I don't have something to root for, I'll find someone to root against.
Posts: 54,695
KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:24 AM   #21
Demonpenz Demonpenz is offline
Woman should only make babies
 
Demonpenz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Apartment "G UNIT!"
Casino cash: $1816136
I think Kwika mitchell can play alittle bit. I don't have the hate that everyone else has for him here. I want to see Fox play more though
__________________
Posts: 54,562
Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:25 AM   #22
Demonpenz Demonpenz is offline
Woman should only make babies
 
Demonpenz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Apartment "G UNIT!"
Casino cash: $1816136
I saw Mitchell make a play where he actually flowed to the ball well and make a tackle. I thought sims was in the backfield more than ususal. I also thought the safteys and corners still had dicks in their mouths.
__________________
Posts: 54,562
Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:25 AM   #23
KcMizzou KcMizzou is offline
Supporter
 
KcMizzou's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Parkville MO
Casino cash: $10005170
Quote:
Originally Posted by tk13
I just don't think he worked the guys as hard this year, gave them too many days off and such, I don't like that. That's the one constant for sure with him, he's always worked guys hard to the point where they've wanted to revolt or file a grievance with the league. I guess guys like Roaf and Priest get banged up and need rest, but I just don't think everybody can rest too much in the preseason and then come back and not miss a beat like Priest or Tony...
Well, we now have 10 preseason games to prepare for '05.
Posts: 54,695
KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:26 AM   #24
Demonpenz Demonpenz is offline
Woman should only make babies
 
Demonpenz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Apartment "G UNIT!"
Casino cash: $1816136
What the hell was up with the false starts tonight, your playing at HOME. Oh and kennison, if you don't know the count peak in at the mother grabbin snap
__________________
Posts: 54,562
Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:27 AM   #25
Demonpenz Demonpenz is offline
Woman should only make babies
 
Demonpenz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Apartment "G UNIT!"
Casino cash: $1816136
If Kris Wilson can play half as good as Tony G, i wouldn't mind trading for somebody to help on D
__________________
Posts: 54,562
Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:28 AM   #26
Demonpenz Demonpenz is offline
Woman should only make babies
 
Demonpenz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Apartment "G UNIT!"
Casino cash: $1816136
I don't think fujita has played well this year. There were a couple mistakes by him tonight. One was he didn't get deep enough and he let a WR camp right behind him. We need some playmakers
__________________
Posts: 54,562
Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:35 AM   #27
Demonpenz Demonpenz is offline
Woman should only make babies
 
Demonpenz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Apartment "G UNIT!"
Casino cash: $1816136
My fantasy team officially went to shit as soon as priest got injured
__________________
Posts: 54,562
Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:49 AM   #28
J Diddy J Diddy is offline
Don't Be A Dick
 
J Diddy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Joplin
Casino cash: $5777192
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonpenz
My fantasy team officially went to shit as soon as priest got injured
me too.

I did pick up blaylock, but we all know how that is going.
Posts: 33,743
J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 03:55 AM   #29
KcMizzou KcMizzou is offline
Supporter
 
KcMizzou's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Parkville MO
Casino cash: $10005170
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Diddy
me too.

I did pick up blaylock, but we all know how that is going.
I wonder...

Will Priest still do us a favor and retire?
Posts: 54,695
KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.KcMizzou is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2004, 04:14 AM   #30
DenverChief DenverChief is offline
Pedantic
 
DenverChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Rocky Ford
Casino cash: $4692617
Quote:
Originally Posted by KcMizzou
I wonder...

Will Priest still do us a favor and retire?
a favor?
Posts: 16,420
DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:31 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.