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Old 05-06-2008, 01:57 PM  
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Academic Progress Report issued by NCAA

USC men's basketball not looking too good.

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http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/home?...ta_J5lt9A.html


NCAA academic report: some college teams may be hit hard

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...Pg1GQD90G90U01

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — College teams that consistently underperform in the classroom are getting hit harder by the NCAA.

Nearly 150 college teams face possible scholarship losses next season and 26 others are in danger of being banned from postseason play if they don't improve next year.

The NCAA's annual academic progress report was released Tuesday. It showed more than 700 teams fell short of the mandated cut score.

But only 218 were penalized with warning letters, potential reductions in scholarships and practice time and warned they face possible postseason bans. Some were granted waivers by the governing body.

Thirty-six teams were assessed two penalties and three schools had more than one team make the list twice — Alabama-Birmingham in men's basketball, football and men's golf; San Diego State in baseball and football; and San Jose State in baseball and men's basketball.

When a team does not improve, the punishments can become harsher with three consecutive scores under 900 leading to a postseason ban. A fourth consecutive offense would prevent them from competing at the Division I level.

Schools already facing a possible postseason ban include football teams at San Jose State, Southern and Temple, and men's basketball teams at New Mexico, Centenary and East Carolina.

Money is becoming a more notable factor in academic success or failure. According to the report, 180 teams cited low resources as the reason for their poor scores, while 253 teams said they were hurt by the departures of academically ineligible players. Teams can cite more than one explanation for scores when filing the report with the NCAA.

This year's result also show the largest Division I schools, those in the Bowl Championship Series conferences, performed relatively well.

Eighteen BCS teams were penalized, eight in men's and women's basketball and two in football. Of those, only four teams — Kansas State, Purdue, Southern California and Tennessee — made the NCAA men's basketball tournament and all four could lose up to two scholarships next season if a player leaves school while academically ineligible.

Also making the list were traditional powers like the LSU baseball team and Tennessee men's swimming team.

Tennessee and West Virginia, which each had three teams on the list, were the only BCS schools with more than one team penalized. Each school had three teams make it — West Virginia in men's soccer, wrestling and women's rowing and Tennessee in men's basketball, men's swimming and baseball.

Women continue to outperform men, with a four-year average of 969 compared to 951.

Historically black colleges and universities, which last year had a disparate percentage of the low scores, fell more in line with the national averages this year. Eleven teams, 4.3 percent of the overall total, at eight historically black schools were penalized. The national average was 4.0 percent.

The most recent report includes scores from the 2003-07 academic years. An athlete earns one point for remaining academically eligible each semester and another point each semester they remain at the school, accumulating a maximum of four points each year. The scoring is altered slightly for schools on a quarters-based calendar.

Over the past four years, the scores improved slightly in 26 of the 29 sports measured by the NCAA, with decreases shown only in men's ice hockey, men's swimming and water polo.
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:36 PM   #16
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My first instinct is to get tougher on these "students", but I don't think that's the problem. Considering their "work" schedule - practice, film room, and especially the travel schedule - how many hours a week are they off campus? - there's no way you can expect them to complete a normal student's coursework.

Reality is that collegiate athletics is a huge revenue generating enterprise. Aside from ticket sales and television revenue, it creates a stream of money from alumni and also creates interest that brings students to the university. Hoops makes a lot more money than football thanks to a smaller number of players on the team, and a venue that costs less to build but has more games played there.
They should get tougher on the student athletes.. You have people taking blowoff courses and failing.. Hell most classes you just have to show up or do the bare minimum to pass and they cannot do that?? An hour or two a night is all it takes for studying to get passing grades..

You want to give them a pass that they can't expect them to do a normal student's coursework, but most have no problem doing a normal student's partying schedule during weeknights and weekends..
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:26 PM   #17
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Is your wife a student athlete while doing her Masters???

Personally, they need to up the level of athletic scholarship standards to maintain a B average.. Do you know how dumb or lazy you have to be in college to not maintain a B???

College athletics need to go back to being a way to get into college and not a way to make money for the schools..

Maintaining a B may be easy, but if you are spending the multitude of hours practicing, playing, and travelling as a student athlete does you might disagree.

Have you ever seen a college playbook? Do you have any idea how much studying it takes to not only memorize the plays, but be able to do the proper drills and interaction required by coaches?

You might be surprised. For instance, a friend of a friend was lucky enough to attend a KSU football game last year, and spent the night prior and all day with the team and coaches behind the scenes. He said it was absolutely astonishing the amount of information they must be able to regurgitate at will to respond in drills, to coaches, and on written exams. KSU coaches give a lengthy written quiz to players prior to gametime and if they don't pass, they don't start. If I remember correctly, he said the one for linemen he got to see was something like 20 pages. From what I understand, being a D-1 athlete in a major sport is MORE than the equivalent of a fulltime job during practice periods and season.
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:27 PM   #18
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Is your wife a student athlete while doing her Masters???

Personally, they need to up the level of athletic scholarship standards to maintain a B average.. Do you know how dumb or lazy you have to be in college to not maintain a B???

College athletics need to go back to being a way to get into college and not a way to make money for the schools..
No, but she does have a full-time professional career.

What was you college major? What was your cumulative GPA?
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:44 PM   #19
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KU only lost TWO football scholarships? Time to celebrate...this means Mangino's in line for another extension.
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:57 PM   #20
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Maintaining a B may be easy, but if you are spending the multitude of hours practicing, playing, and travelling as a student athlete does you might disagree.

Have you ever seen a college playbook? Do you have any idea how much studying it takes to not only memorize the plays, but be able to do the proper drills and interaction required by coaches?

You might be surprised. For instance, a friend of a friend was lucky enough to attend a KSU football game last year, and spent the night prior and all day with the team and coaches behind the scenes. He said it was absolutely astonishing the amount of information they must be able to regurgitate at will to respond in drills, to coaches, and on written exams. KSU coaches give a lengthy written quiz to players prior to gametime and if they don't pass, they don't start. If I remember correctly, he said the one for linemen he got to see was something like 20 pages. From what I understand, being a D-1 athlete in a major sport is MORE than the equivalent of a fulltime job during practice periods and season.
And they still suck.
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:30 PM   #21
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And they still suck.
You have that in common then...
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