Friday Night Lights.... - Page 2

Deberg_1990 · 10-07-2004, 06:58 PM

Yeah yeah...I know..another movie thread....I guess im on a movie kick tonight......so who is gonna go check this one out? I read the book about 10 years ago or so and its a classic...I hope the movie captures the spirit of it. There is nothing like Texas High School Football....

redbrian · 10-08-2004, 08:32 AM

Cast of ‘Friday Night Lights' scores small-town goals

By ROBERT W. BUTLER

The Kansas City Star

“Friday Night Lights” unfolds in drab Odessa, Texas, where everybody's self-worth is wrapped up in the failure or success of the Permian High School Panthers football team.

Based on Buzz Bissinger's 1990 nonfiction best seller, this new film from director Peter Berg is both a sports movie and an anti-sports movie. It has plenty of hard-hitting action; the Panthers' '88 season was a roller-coaster ride of triumphs and crippling setbacks that led finally to a showdown for the state championship.

But Berg and screenwriter David Aaron Cohen are gunning for more than the usual football clichés. Yes, it's about the men who play and coach the game. But it's also about the borderline lunacy that reigns in a town where a winning gridiron squad provides the citizens with their only bragging rights. At Permian, young men realize that only triumph on the playing field will get them out of this smothering place.

Fans of the book will find the film astoundingly faithful, even to the point of eschewing the dramatic flourishes and Hollywood moments we've come to expect from the genre. “Friday Night Lights” often feels more like a documentary than a standard-issue studio release, with everything from the visuals (handheld cameras capturing the washed-out look of the Mexican sequences in “Traffic”) to the pacing and the performances suggesting that we're eavesdropping on real life.

Exhibiting a light touch with material that in clumsier hands might come off as ham-handed, Berg and his players deliver a movie that feels genuinely lived in.

While the film doesn't emphasize any one central character, three figures emerge as major players.

First, there's Gary Gaines (Billy Bob Thornton), now in his second year at Permian and just beginning to realize what it means to coach in a football-obsessed small town.

On the plus side, he earns more money than the school principal and plays in a state-of-the-art stadium (with a working oil well in the parking lot, no less). He works in a fishbowl (crowds turn out just for after-school practice); city fathers drop by Gaines' office to second-guess him; and after a loss he finds his front yard decorated with dozens of “For Sale” signs.

Movie football coaches usually come off like fire-breathing fundamentalist preachers. Thornton goes in just the opposite direction: His Gaines is perhaps the sanest person on screen. Oh, he's capable of yelling at an errant player and of giving a world-class halftime pep talk to his discouraged team, but mostly he keeps his thoughts to himself.

That's OK. Thornton is such a good actor you can tell what he's thinking without dialogue.

Lucas Black (who as a child played opposite Thornton in “Sling Blade”) is terrific as the team's quarterback, Mike Winchell. Far from being a cocky BMOC, Mike is a quiet, sensitive kid who loves the game but not the pressure and whose emotionally fragile single mom is always about two pills away from institutionalization. He's a sober young man who rarely smiles and is so naïve that he's not sure what to do when a sexually predaceous girl targets him as a trophy.

Winchell's polar opposite is Boobie Miles (Derek Luke), a running back so talented that pundits already are predicting a Heisman in his future. But with his awesome skills comes an attitude — Boobie struts and poses, seeing himself as the star of his own movie.

When challenged about slacking off on his weight training, Boobie flashes his million-dollar smile, points to his own gorgeous body, and replies: “This is God-given. All I gotta do is show up.”

Were Boobie a scholar (which he isn't; Permian's teachers apparently give him and the other players a free ride) he would know that in Greek tragedy the sin of hubris never goes unpunished.

Along the way are some solid supporting performances: Jay Hernandez as the one team member who can get out of town on his good grades and Lee Thompson Young as a bench warmer who discovers his hidden talents.

Especially telling is the relationship between Don Billingsley (Garrett Hedlund), a working-class kid, and his brutal, boozy father (country music star Tim McGraw in a solid debut). Don's old man is a sports dad from hell who played on Permian's championship team 20 years earlier and isn't above publicly punching out his son for fumbling the ball.

Heavy stuff. But Berg and Cohen also know how to deftly dish out the satire. Like the caller to the local radio sports show who has a simple explanation for why the Panthers lost a game: “They're doin' too much learnin' in that school.”

Swanman · 10-08-2004, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kcsportsguy

PS, ITS PREDICTABLE

Of course it's predictable, it's based on a true story. They're not going to make a movies based on a true story where a high school team goes 6-5 and then loses by 80 in the first round of the playoffs. That's like saying "Titanic" was predictable because you knew the ship was going to crash or saying any Ben Affleck film is predictable because you knew it was going to suck.

I read the book a while back and it was a great depiction of how obsessed small towns can be with their sports programs. According to reviewers on ESPN.com, the movie scores high in that it is pretty true to the book, moreso than a lot of "true story" sports movies.

**Skip Towne** · 10-08-2004, 08:59 AM

I don't like Texans either but their football is as passionate as anyplace in the country. Their cheerleaders moms kill people over it. As for Indiana basketball, it's gone. When their hero, Bobby Knight, got banished to purgatory, they turned out the lights.

**Skip Towne** · 10-08-2004, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BucsGirl

I want to see the Grudge it looks scary....

Hey, BucsGirl, did you find Stumppy?

donkhater · 10-08-2004, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Indiana High School Basketball baby!...

It's still big but not even close to what it once was and it has nothing to do with Bobby Knight.

The morons that run the IHSAA (Indiana High School Athletic Association) fugged up big time in switching to multi-class basketball. It's been so much worse than the single class format that I have no doubt that they'd go back if they thought they could. I know of no one out here that likes the multi-class system.

Braincase · 10-08-2004, 09:26 AM

I'm waiting for HAVOC. Show them puppies, Anne!

irishjayhawk · 10-08-2004, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Rotten tomatoes is just a collection of movie reviews from all over the country. They don't actually have reviewers of their own.

I'll probably still see it on DVD, but after hearing your opinion of it... I don't think I go to the trouble of trying to see it in a theater.

I know that.

Yes, it's based on a true story. How much is actually true. Remember the Titans in real life didn't win the last game. There were alot of oversights in thatmovie too. Plus did I mention the "highschoolers" don't look so "high school-ish" Boobie(yes that his name) looks like hes 25.

EDIT: By the way I will declare that I wasn't familiar with the story. Otherwise Id agree with your response about being predictable.

irishjayhawk · 10-08-2004, 10:05 AM

Don't get me wrong, people could like it. IMO though it sucked.

Jenson71 · 10-08-2004, 01:02 PM

I saw it and I have no idea what I think about it.

KingPriest2 · 10-08-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kcsportsguy

I know that.

Yes, it's based on a true story. How much is actually true. Remember the Titans in real life didn't win the last game. There were alot of oversights in thatmovie too. Plus did I mention the "highschoolers" don't look so "high school-ish" Boobie(yes that his name) looks like hes 25.

EDIT: By the way I will declare that I wasn't familiar with the story. Otherwise Id agree with your response about being predictable.

Just want to inform you that they did go undefeated that year. You are there are differences in the movie from what happened. But the team did go undefeated.

Deberg_1990 · 10-08-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kcsportsguy

I know that.

Yes, it's based on a true story. How much is actually true. Remember the Titans in real life didn't win the last game. There were alot of oversights in thatmovie too. Plus did I mention the "highschoolers" don't look so "high school-ish" Boobie(yes that his name) looks like hes 25.

EDIT: By the way I will declare that I wasn't familiar with the story. Otherwise Id agree with your response about being predictable.

Yes.........the real team from Remember the Tiatans did win the big game....they jsut didnt do it in the fashion portrayed in the movie...the movie made it seem more heroic than it actually was.

irishjayhawk · 10-08-2004, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yes.........the real team from Remember the Tiatans did win the big game....they jsut didnt do it in the fashion portrayed in the movie...the movie made it seem more heroic than it actually was.

Well, my brother talked to a guy that was on the team. He said they lost. I guess he might not be telling the truth.

KingPriest, I wasn't saying the movie was totally inaccurate.

KCFANinNC · 10-08-2004, 04:00 PM

Are there a lot of cameos?

I know Roy Williams the Cowgirl S was a coach.

tk13 · 10-08-2004, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by donkhater

It's still big but not even close to what it once was and it has nothing to do with Bobby Knight.

The morons that run the IHSAA (Indiana High School Athletic Association) fugged up big time in switching to multi-class basketball. It's been so much worse than the single class format that I have no doubt that they'd go back if they thought they could. I know of no one out here that likes the multi-class system.

I don't have a problem with it, but some people just want to be stubborn and quit. The basketball is better now, the sectionals are better and more competitive. I don't know, the northern part of the state might not be as amped up about it but in the southern half I still think there's excitement over it. There was when I played, and there still is in many places. But my school was a Class A school that used to get the snot kicked out of it by bigger schools... I wasn't really against the opportunity to play against somebody else. Then again more people go to the big schools, so the majority of people are against it. People just forget about the Class A schools... that last year of one-class everybody wanted to talk up Batesville and how they were the team with "small school dreams"... what a load of crap, that's a 3A school. Over half the state had smaller enrollments than them.... it's very much a New York Yankees mentality.

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redbrian Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	Cast of ‘Friday Night Lights' scores small-town goals By ROBERT W. BUTLER The Kansas City Star “Friday Night Lights” unfolds in drab Odessa, Texas, where everybody's self-worth is wrapped up in the failure or success of the Permian High School Panthers football team. Based on Buzz Bissinger's 1990 nonfiction best seller, this new film from director Peter Berg is both a sports movie and an anti-sports movie. It has plenty of hard-hitting action; the Panthers' '88 season was a roller-coaster ride of triumphs and crippling setbacks that led finally to a showdown for the state championship. But Berg and screenwriter David Aaron Cohen are gunning for more than the usual football clichés. Yes, it's about the men who play and coach the game. But it's also about the borderline lunacy that reigns in a town where a winning gridiron squad provides the citizens with their only bragging rights. At Permian, young men realize that only triumph on the playing field will get them out of this smothering place. Fans of the book will find the film astoundingly faithful, even to the point of eschewing the dramatic flourishes and Hollywood moments we've come to expect from the genre. “Friday Night Lights” often feels more like a documentary than a standard-issue studio release, with everything from the visuals (handheld cameras capturing the washed-out look of the Mexican sequences in “Traffic”) to the pacing and the performances suggesting that we're eavesdropping on real life. Exhibiting a light touch with material that in clumsier hands might come off as ham-handed, Berg and his players deliver a movie that feels genuinely lived in. While the film doesn't emphasize any one central character, three figures emerge as major players. First, there's Gary Gaines (Billy Bob Thornton), now in his second year at Permian and just beginning to realize what it means to coach in a football-obsessed small town. On the plus side, he earns more money than the school principal and plays in a state-of-the-art stadium (with a working oil well in the parking lot, no less). He works in a fishbowl (crowds turn out just for after-school practice); city fathers drop by Gaines' office to second-guess him; and after a loss he finds his front yard decorated with dozens of “For Sale” signs. Movie football coaches usually come off like fire-breathing fundamentalist preachers. Thornton goes in just the opposite direction: His Gaines is perhaps the sanest person on screen. Oh, he's capable of yelling at an errant player and of giving a world-class halftime pep talk to his discouraged team, but mostly he keeps his thoughts to himself. That's OK. Thornton is such a good actor you can tell what he's thinking without dialogue. Lucas Black (who as a child played opposite Thornton in “Sling Blade”) is terrific as the team's quarterback, Mike Winchell. Far from being a cocky BMOC, Mike is a quiet, sensitive kid who loves the game but not the pressure and whose emotionally fragile single mom is always about two pills away from institutionalization. He's a sober young man who rarely smiles and is so naïve that he's not sure what to do when a sexually predaceous girl targets him as a trophy. Winchell's polar opposite is Boobie Miles (Derek Luke), a running back so talented that pundits already are predicting a Heisman in his future. But with his awesome skills comes an attitude — Boobie struts and poses, seeing himself as the star of his own movie. When challenged about slacking off on his weight training, Boobie flashes his million-dollar smile, points to his own gorgeous body, and replies: “This is God-given. All I gotta do is show up.” Were Boobie a scholar (which he isn't; Permian's teachers apparently give him and the other players a free ride) he would know that in Greek tragedy the sin of hubris never goes unpunished. Along the way are some solid supporting performances: Jay Hernandez as the one team member who can get out of town on his good grades and Lee Thompson Young as a bench warmer who discovers his hidden talents. Especially telling is the relationship between Don Billingsley (Garrett Hedlund), a working-class kid, and his brutal, boozy father (country music star Tim McGraw in a solid debut). Don's old man is a sports dad from hell who played on Permian's championship team 20 years earlier and isn't above publicly punching out his son for fumbling the ball. Heavy stuff. But Berg and Cohen also know how to deftly dish out the satire. Like the caller to the local radio sports show who has a simple explanation for why the Panthers lost a game: “They're doin' too much learnin' in that school.”
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