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Old 10-29-2004, 06:53 AM   #1
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Feh...Im positive Carl could have gotten better value out of that pick. Im sure Carl missed the true Probowler in that round, just ask shane.
Actually, you'll need to ask him 10 years from now when he can give you an objective answer.
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Old 10-29-2004, 07:36 AM   #2
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I said before they drafted him that I saw a lot of Grant Wistrom in him.
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Old 10-29-2004, 07:42 AM   #3
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I said before they drafted him that I saw a lot of Grant Wistrom in him.
I thought you said he reminded you of Jared the Subway guy?
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Old 10-29-2004, 08:01 AM   #4
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I thought you said he reminded you of Jared the Subway guy?
The two comparisons don't have to be mutually exclusive.
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Old 10-29-2004, 08:11 AM   #5
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I thought you said he reminded you of Jared the Subway guy?
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Old 10-29-2004, 07:43 AM   #6
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His girlfriend dumped him when she found out he wasn't Grant Wistrom.
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Old 10-29-2004, 07:46 AM   #7
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Allen has the same number of sacks as Kearse and Freeney, in a fraction of the snaps.

He has more sacks than Grant Wistrom (2.5).
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Old 10-29-2004, 12:09 PM   #8
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Allen has the same number of sacks as Kearse and Freeney, in a fraction of the snaps.

He has more sacks than Grant Wistrom (2.5).
We did nothing to improve this defense. Didn't even try to...
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Old 10-29-2004, 12:23 PM   #9
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We did nothing to improve this defense. Didn't even try to...
you really think a forth rd draft pick should be considered a "real effort" to improve a defense that had been so bad for so long as ours?


Jared allen is one of those nice surprise picks that should compliment the real improvements that are made.

a nice "bonus"
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Old 10-29-2004, 12:30 PM   #10
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you really think a forth rd draft pick should be considered a "real effort" to improve a defense that had been so bad for so long as ours?
'real effort'...I think we have another Lexicon entry boys and girls. Let's get a definition together.
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Old 10-29-2004, 07:57 AM   #11
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Allen is playing very hard and obviously doing very well..........He's got potential to be a real fan favorite in KC.

I'm on the wagon, and as I've said a couple of times...........I can't wait to see him next season, after he's addd 10-15lbs of muscle in the offseason.

I think its very feasible that Allen could have 10-12 sacks this season.
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Old 10-29-2004, 12:43 PM   #12
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I can't wait to see him next season, after he's addd 10-15lbs of muscle in the offseason.
Man, I'm so tired of hearing people say that. You want to see him slower next season, since he has to pull around 10-15 more pounds of muscle?

The average weight of the top 10 rated DE's by CBSSportsline is 273 pounds. If Allen is really playing at 270, he is fine. More weight does not necessarily a better DE make.

Nothing personal, o'course, Iowanian. That sentiment is expressed all over this board.

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Man, I'm so tired of hearing people say that. You want to see him slower next season, since he has to pull around 10-15 more pounds of muscle?

The average weight of the top 10 rated DE's by CBSSportsline is 273 pounds. If Allen is really playing at 270, he is fine. More weight does not necessarily a better DE make.

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Man, I'm so tired of hearing people say that. You want to see him slower next season, since he has to pull around 10-15 more pounds of muscle?

The average weight of the top 10 rated DE's by CBSSportsline is 273 pounds. If Allen is really playing at 270, he is fine. More weight does not necessarily a better DE make.

Nothing personal, o'course, Iowanian. That sentiment is expressed all over this board.

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Disagreement is fine....so I'll express mine here.

Allen is doing a great job of pressuring the QB in his limited reps. Outstanding. Any time he's mentioned, they also say that he's undersized.

While having a speed rushing RDE is fine, I'd prefer to see him put on 10lbs of muscle(his frame will easily hold 20) to make him a better EVERY DOWN RDE instead of a spot player on pass downs.

To hold up vs the run, as a starter, it is my opinion that he'll need to get a little bigger and stronger. I don't think you'd notice a dip in his speed with 10-15lbs of Muscle(being the key word).

You watch over the next offseason, and see what the coaches say around spring training...........They'll have him on a program to do exactly that. I'll give you my avatar for a month if I'm wrong.
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