Are you ready for some Defense? - Page 2

Gaz · 12-02-2004, 08:39 AM

Personally, I like the idea of Gunther’s “attack the pencil neck” scheme with some new players. I fully expect the draft to be all about the D [Rolle or Johnson, anyone?], with some FA action [MLB?] on the side.

How about you?

xoxo~
Gaz
Would like to be excited about the Defense again.

BigChiefFan · 12-02-2004, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Add a CB, DE, 2 LBs (keep Fujita) and we're set!

Fujita is a FA. I say let him walk. I'd prefer to give his money to somebody that can tackle. Fujita is quick, but he's still lost out there and whiffs on several plays. We need quality and Fujita has lived up to his 5th rounder label, no more than that, IMO. We need new blood.

Hydrae · 12-02-2004, 04:04 PM

I would be excited except I am not sure that one off season will be enough to fix all the problems.

htismaqe · 12-02-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Fujita is a FA. I say let him walk. I'd prefer to give his money to somebody that can tackle. Fujita is quick, but he's still lost out there and whiffs on several plays. We need quality and Fujita has lived up to his 5th rounder label, no more than that, IMO. We need new blood.

Fujita is a restricted free agent. It won't cost much to keep him.

Calcountry · 12-02-2004, 04:10 PM

We need to keep laying down this year as well. Make the Raiders think they are good by letting them win by 3 points. We can't draft high enough in this years draft.

BigChiefFan · 12-02-2004, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Fujita is a restricted free agent. It won't cost much to keep him.

As long as no one wants him, he should be cheap, but even then I'd rather relegate him to back-up and special teams. I want a sure-tackler and Fujita, IMO isn't that guy.

Pants · 12-02-2004, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

As long as no one wants him, he should be cheap, but even then I'd rather relegate him to back-up and special teams. I want a sure-tackler and Fujita, IMO isn't that guy.

I think Fujita is excellent. He's the only guy who CAN tackle on our defense. He hits like a mother****er, and he is damn smart. I say keep him.

bogie · 12-02-2004, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

We need to keep laying down this year as well. Make the Raiders think they are good by letting them win by 3 points. We can't draft high enough in this years draft.

I can never route for a Raider win, never.

BigChiefFan · 12-02-2004, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

I think Fujita is excellent. He's the only guy who CAN tackle on our defense. He hits like a mother****er, and he is damn smart. I say keep him.

Fujita hits like a mofo? We must be watching two different games, because our LBers have struggled all year long and Fujita's been a starter.

irishjayhawk · 12-02-2004, 04:28 PM

Yeah. Of all the LBs I thought Beisel (sp?) played the best (when he's in). Hell, even when hes out he plays better than our "other" MLB.

Logical · 12-02-2004, 06:17 PM

There is far too much wrong with our defense for it to be fixed on only one offseason. We will still suck next year the only question is how badly.

Note: This is why wasting the last offseason was such a complete and total travesty.

Logical · 12-02-2004, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

I like Gunther's scheme for the most part.

I'd like to see it with a new DE in Hicks' spot, a new body filling Holliday's roster spot....new LB, New OLB(Barber) at least 1 top notch CB and a Safety.

If we could get all that we could indeed be quite a bit better. But there is no way I can see us 6 quality players in one offseason.

**Skip Towne** · 12-02-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

If we could get all that we could indeed be quite a bit better. But there is no way I can see us 6 quality players in one offseason.

What? Have you no faith in Carl?

go bo · 12-02-2004, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

If we could get all that we could indeed be quite a bit better. But there is no way I can see us 6 quality players in one offseason.

and you don't even have to be a pessimist to see that this is true...

no way we come up with 6 quality players, let alone in one offseason...

especially when dv won't play rookies, which makes the draft an unlikely place to find any of these 6 starters...

2bikemike · 12-02-2004, 06:47 PM

IMHO I think that we would be ok with 3 impact players on Defense.
They would have to be leaders on the field. They would raise the rest of the defense around them. So there fore it would be a vet.

We need one playmaking impact player at each of these positions.

Corner, Linebacker, DE.

This just addresses the defense. I think we need a little tweaking of the offense as well.

Hydrae · 12-02-2004, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike

IMHO I think that we would be ok with 3 impact players on Defense.
They would have to be leaders on the field. They would raise the rest of the defense around them. So there fore it would be a vet.

We need one playmaking impact player at each of these positions.

Corner, Linebacker, DE.

This just addresses the defense. I think we need a little tweaking of the offense as well.

Oh, you mean McCleon, Barber and Holliday?

View Poll Results: Are you excited about the 2005 D possibilities?
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Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	Are you ready for some Defense? Personally, I like the idea of Gunther’s “attack the pencil neck” scheme with some new players. I fully expect the draft to be all about the D [Rolle or Johnson, anyone?], with some FA action [MLB?] on the side. How about you? xoxo~ Gaz Would like to be excited about the Defense again.
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Hydrae Sandbox: Leander Lasercats Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Austin, Tx Casino cash: $1867000	I would be excited except I am not sure that one off season will be enough to fix all the problems.
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Calcountry Shoot the tube Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $8721645	We need to keep laying down this year as well. Make the Raiders think they are good by letting them win by 3 points. We can't draft high enough in this years draft.
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irishjayhawk Feelin' Alright Join Date: Aug 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	Yeah. Of all the LBs I thought Beisel (sp?) played the best (when he's in). Hell, even when hes out he plays better than our "other" MLB. __________________ "Think about how stupid the average person is. Then remember that half the people in the world are stupider than that." --George Carlin
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Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	There is far too much wrong with our defense for it to be fixed on only one offseason. We will still suck next year the only question is how badly. Note: This is why wasting the last offseason was such a complete and total travesty.
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2bikemike Born to Ride Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NWA Casino cash: $1945377	IMHO I think that we would be ok with 3 impact players on Defense. They would have to be leaders on the field. They would raise the rest of the defense around them. So there fore it would be a vet. We need one playmaking impact player at each of these positions. Corner, Linebacker, DE. This just addresses the defense. I think we need a little tweaking of the offense as well.
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