I want LJ gone NOW ... (found on the KCSTAR board) - Page 2

royr17 · 12-16-2004, 03:33 PM

Like I said i found this on the star and I thought it be interesting to see what some people have to say on this matter :

I have to agree that I Larry Johnson has an undeniable amount of talent. How much that is, no one really knows... But I do know this... He is bad for the Chiefs. Larry Johnson is bad for this team, PERIOD. This morning on a radio interview he was asked if he would rather win a Superbowl or be inducted into the Hall of Fame. His answer? "Definately the Hall of Fame." Later on today when he was talking to the media he was asked about Jake Plummer's gesture to the fan in Denver and he replied that he does it all the time on the road. He pokes fun at the opposing fans and that it doesn't matter because he's "not starting."
I'm telling you guys.. LJ is bad for this team. He's not a team player and everything he does he bases on HIM not playing or HIM getting this or that. He's not a team guy. The Chiefs would be best suited by letting LJ run the ball, and his mouth, as it were, run up a lot of stats and then trade his a$s in the off-season. He's not a team player... I'd rather see the Chiefs win a Superbowl then watch a Hall of Fame running back on a 6-10 team.

royr17 · 12-16-2004, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob_Dole

That post appears almost word for on nepachiefs.com's forum.

Dole

headsnap · 12-16-2004, 04:59 PM

If only any LJ had half the talent Rich Scanlon does.

MonroeChief · 12-16-2004, 05:05 PM

I think that LJ has shown enough talent that he should be starting the rest of the season in front of Blaylock. Imagine the number of yards he could have if he played a full game as the #1 back.

When Priest comes back next year and LJ has proved himself (as most of us know he will) we will have a backfield that will not diminish in productivity when one of them is catching their wind. A little different style, but both seem to be able to use the Oline.

Blaylock is a FA after this year and hasn't shown enough to spend big bucks to resign him IMO.

Spicy McHaggis · 12-16-2004, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob_Dole

That post appears almost word for on nepachiefs.com's forum.

Nice

|Zach| · 12-16-2004, 05:41 PM

Are there any links to back up these quotes by him? I dont count NEPA.

Judge Smails · 12-16-2004, 06:03 PM

I heard Petro talking about this at lunch. They were also saying the impression they got from Johnson during the interview was that he seemed unintersted in guys who have had to work to stick, and that because he was a first round pick, he has more talent and therefore deserves the playing time, and that he shouldn't have to show it in practice.

Douche bag.

Wile_E_Coyote · 12-16-2004, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Judge Smails

I heard Petro talking about this at lunch. They were also saying the impression they got from Johnson during the interview was that he seemed unintersted in guys who have had to work to stick, and that because he was a first round pick, he has more talent and therefore deserves the playing time, and that he shouldn't have to show it in practice.

Douche bag.

LJ claimed a scheduling conflict & canceled an appearance for their station. They'll be on his ass for awhile..take it with a grain of salt

Calcountry · 12-16-2004, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunther_Fan

Many minds will be changed if he rushes for 1600 yds in a season.

Even RoyR17's would be if he was the MVP in the Super Bowl victory.

Deberg_1990 · 12-16-2004, 07:14 PM

Geez..im so sick of people bashing this guy....so he has a little attitude..so what?? Its actually a little refreshing to get some "Attitude" on our team. You know all thoughout the 90's we would have killed for a back like any of the ones on our team now, and now we have THREE great backs! Now that we are blessed with all this talent at RB all some peeps can do is find new ways to bash this guy????? Sigh...

Stinger · 12-16-2004, 07:17 PM

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This morning on a radio interview he was asked if he would rather win a Superbowl or be inducted into the Hall of Fame. His answer? "Definately the Hall of Fame."

Actually this part does not bother me because most of the players would have or has said that. Their reasoning is many people have superbowl rings, but only a select few make it into the hall of fame.

CanadaKC · 12-16-2004, 07:20 PM

We have to ask ourselves one serious question heading into the draft...
is it better to keep LJ?...or to trade him away. While I believe he's quite the talent and coming along....let's not forget he was drafted for the SOLE purpose of being insurance for Priest had his hip not recovered.
That's all under the bridge now.
Now, there's three reasons we should let him go as far as I can see.
First, no player, especially a 1st rounder, likes being deemed "insurance" for another player. That's just not a healthy way to come into an organization. He's pouted ever since and is only getting playing time because Priest is hurt and the season is over. Again, not the situation
LJ wants.
Secondly, he'll never give this team 100 per cent after the "diaper" comment by Vermeil. He might as well paste that label on his forehead as long as he's facing his teammates in the locker room. The only reason he's playing now, and so well...is to audition for other teams.
It's like a shortened contract year for LJ.
And last....the Chiefs, including the LJ pick, have made some terrible mistakes in the draft over the last couple of years. The defence is awful...and has been for years. We give up an average of 270 yards per game through the air alone. Tweener, reaches, and projects won't cut it anymore. I feel Carl avoids drafting a stud simply because he knows he's going to have to shell out some big dough for an impact player. The whole league and all Chief fans will be watching in April with extreme scrutiny. He has to score an A this time around.
Trading LJ for the highest value will be a move we can all live with, IMO.
We may have to parlay LJ and our 1st rounder for a higher pick to snag Rolle or Derrick Johnson....but so be it. The time has come to make a bold move, and LJ is part of the equation. It's like the Mariners picking up Beltre from the Dodgers...they just added 48 homers to their last place home run total from last season. We draft Derrick Johnson...we can add 10 more tackles at or behind the line of scrimmage. We add Rolle...there's possibly 8-10 TD's not scored against us next season.
Carl is on the clock....and we are all watching....especially what he gets for LJ...because like it or not...it HAS to happen.

teedubya · 12-16-2004, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC

We have to ask ourselves one serious question heading into the draft...
is it better to keep LJ?...or to trade him away. While I believe he's quite the talent and coming along....let's not forget he was drafted for the SOLE purpose of being insurance for Priest had his hip not recovered.
That's all under the bridge now.
Now, there's three reasons we should let him go as far as I can see.
First, no player, especially a 1st rounder, likes being deemed "insurance" for another player. That's just not a healthy way to come into an organization. He's pouted ever since and is only getting playing time because Priest is hurt and the season is over. Again, not the situation
LJ wants.
Secondly, he'll never give this team 100 per cent after the "diaper" comment by Vermeil. He might as well paste that label on his forehead as long as he's facing his teammates in the locker room. The only reason he's playing now, and so well...is to audition for other teams.
It's like a shortened contract year for LJ.
And last....the Chiefs, including the LJ pick, have made some terrible mistakes in the draft over the last couple of years. The defense is awful...and has been for years. We give up an average of 270 yards per game through the air alone. Tweener, reaches, and projects won't cut it anymore. I feel Carl avoids drafting a stud simply because he knows he's going to have to shell out some big dough for an impact player. The whole league and all Chief fans will be watching in April with extreme scrutiny. He has to score an A this time around.
Trading LJ for the highest value will be a move we can all live with, IMO.
We may have to parlay LJ and our 1st rounder for a higher pick to snag Rolle or Derrick Johnson....but so be it. The time has come to make a bold move, and LJ is part of the equation. It's like the Mariners picking up Beltre from the Dodgers...they just added 48 homers to their last place home run total from last season. We draft Derrick Johnson...we can add 10 more tackles at or behind the line of scrimmage. We add Rolle...there's possibly 8-10 TD's not scored against us next season.
Carl is on the clock....and we are all watching....especially what he gets for LJ...because like it or not...it HAS to happen.

Hallelujah!

Ralphy Boy · 12-16-2004, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadaKC

We have to ask ourselves one serious question heading into the draft...
is it better to keep LJ?...or to trade him away. While I believe he's quite the talent and coming along....let's not forget he was drafted for the SOLE purpose of being insurance for Priest had his hip not recovered.
That's all under the bridge now.
Now, there's three reasons we should let him go as far as I can see.
First, no player, especially a 1st rounder, likes being deemed "insurance" for another player. That's just not a healthy way to come into an organization. He's pouted ever since and is only getting playing time because Priest is hurt and the season is over. Again, not the situation
LJ wants.
Secondly, he'll never give this team 100 per cent after the "diaper" comment by Vermeil. He might as well paste that label on his forehead as long as he's facing his teammates in the locker room. The only reason he's playing now, and so well...is to audition for other teams.
It's like a shortened contract year for LJ.
And last....the Chiefs, including the LJ pick, have made some terrible mistakes in the draft over the last couple of years. The defense is awful...and has been for years. We give up an average of 270 yards per game through the air alone. Tweener, reaches, and projects won't cut it anymore. I feel Carl avoids drafting a stud simply because he knows he's going to have to shell out some big dough for an impact player. The whole league and all Chief fans will be watching in April with extreme scrutiny. He has to score an A this time around.
Trading LJ for the highest value will be a move we can all live with, IMO.
We may have to parlay LJ and our 1st rounder for a higher pick to snag Rolle or Derrick Johnson....but so be it. The time has come to make a bold move, and LJ is part of the equation. It's like the Mariners picking up Beltre from the Dodgers...they just added 48 homers to their last place home run total from last season. We draft Derrick Johnson...we can add 10 more tackles at or behind the line of scrimmage. We add Rolle...there's possibly 8-10 TD's not scored against us next season.
Carl is on the clock....and we are all watching....especially what he gets for LJ...because like it or not...it HAS to happen.

No way that Rolle comes in and stops 8 to 10 TD's from being scored against us. Rookie CB's don't play at that level & Rolle, who I do like, hasn't had the season that many thought he would.

I can't disagree with the DJ statement because he quite possibly could be just that good. I'll agree that we could be shopping LJ and agree with all of your comments on him. He isn't the first RB drafted high as insurance for a premier RB and most have handled it better than he. Deuce McAllister was drafted as insurance for Ricky Williams, Trung Candidate & Stephen Jackson for Marshall Faulk, Deshaun Foster might have been drafted before Stephen Davis went to Carolina can't recall. Shaun Alexander was drafted to replace Ricky Watters and the list goes on and on. LJ needs to have some patience and realize that he's playing behind a HOF back now and if he is truly wanting to get there himself, he'd be smart to pay attention and bide his time. He did a good job in his interview of deflecting credit to his offensive line and he needs to realize that his looking good had a lot to do not only with that line but also the scheme and team he is playing for.

The team that kept his ass from dropping all the way out of the first round. He may not like it, but he IS in a good situation right now.

Logical · 12-16-2004, 08:41 PM

People be saying Leon a punk bitch. Leon no punk bitch, Leon is 1st round man, 1st round. Leon deserve to have Priest sit his azz down, you here me down. Priest be an old fucker and Leon haz the skilz. Leon say fuck Priest he ain't got shit on Leon, Leon could teach Priest a thing or two. Leon be Hall of Fame material. Don't be jammin on Leon about no piddly Super Bowl, lotz of folk got Super Bowl rings, hell yea, Priest that punk ass he's got himself a Super Bowl ring. Leon wants to know did that punk azz Priest get drafted in the first round? Hell no.

Give Leon his respect.

FringeNC · 12-16-2004, 09:19 PM

I don't want the guy gone, but I'd wish he'd shut his mouth-hole.

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't he supposed to be a "character guy" when we drafted him?

If he keep his mouth shut, he might be the Chiefs' starting RB as soon as next year...doesn't he realize he is doing himself no good by running off at the mouth?

12-16-2004, 03:33 PM
royr17 MVP Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lovin my kids Casino cash: $1568676	I want LJ gone NOW ... (found on the KCSTAR board) Like I said i found this on the star and I thought it be interesting to see what some people have to say on this matter : I have to agree that I Larry Johnson has an undeniable amount of talent. How much that is, no one really knows... But I do know this... He is bad for the Chiefs. Larry Johnson is bad for this team, PERIOD. This morning on a radio interview he was asked if he would rather win a Superbowl or be inducted into the Hall of Fame. His answer? "Definately the Hall of Fame." Later on today when he was talking to the media he was asked about Jake Plummer's gesture to the fan in Denver and he replied that he does it all the time on the road. He pokes fun at the opposing fans and that it doesn't matter because he's "not starting." I'm telling you guys.. LJ is bad for this team. He's not a team player and everything he does he bases on HIM not playing or HIM getting this or that. He's not a team guy. The Chiefs would be best suited by letting LJ run the ball, and his mouth, as it were, run up a lot of stats and then trade his a$s in the off-season. He's not a team player... I'd rather see the Chiefs win a Superbowl then watch a Hall of Fame running back on a 6-10 team.
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12-16-2004, 04:59 PM	#17
headsnap "Think ZOOM!" Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Space Station #5 Casino cash: $1467236	If only any LJ had half the talent Rich Scanlon does.
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12-16-2004, 05:05 PM	#18
MonroeChief Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	I think that LJ has shown enough talent that he should be starting the rest of the season in front of Blaylock. Imagine the number of yards he could have if he played a full game as the #1 back. When Priest comes back next year and LJ has proved himself (as most of us know he will) we will have a backfield that will not diminish in productivity when one of them is catching their wind. A little different style, but both seem to be able to use the Oline. Blaylock is a FA after this year and hasn't shown enough to spend big bucks to resign him IMO.
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12-16-2004, 05:41 PM	#20
\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5146768	Are there any links to back up these quotes by him? I dont count NEPA.
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12-16-2004, 06:03 PM	#21
Judge Smails Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $3015117	I heard Petro talking about this at lunch. They were also saying the impression they got from Johnson during the interview was that he seemed unintersted in guys who have had to work to stick, and that because he was a first round pick, he has more talent and therefore deserves the playing time, and that he shouldn't have to show it in practice. Douche bag.
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12-16-2004, 07:14 PM	#24
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3524454	Geez..im so sick of people bashing this guy....so he has a little attitude..so what?? Its actually a little refreshing to get some "Attitude" on our team. You know all thoughout the 90's we would have killed for a back like any of the ones on our team now, and now we have THREE great backs! Now that we are blessed with all this talent at RB all some peeps can do is find new ways to bash this guy????? Sigh...
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12-16-2004, 07:20 PM	#26
CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $6518668	We have to ask ourselves one serious question heading into the draft... is it better to keep LJ?...or to trade him away. While I believe he's quite the talent and coming along....let's not forget he was drafted for the SOLE purpose of being insurance for Priest had his hip not recovered. That's all under the bridge now. Now, there's three reasons we should let him go as far as I can see. First, no player, especially a 1st rounder, likes being deemed "insurance" for another player. That's just not a healthy way to come into an organization. He's pouted ever since and is only getting playing time because Priest is hurt and the season is over. Again, not the situation LJ wants. Secondly, he'll never give this team 100 per cent after the "diaper" comment by Vermeil. He might as well paste that label on his forehead as long as he's facing his teammates in the locker room. The only reason he's playing now, and so well...is to audition for other teams. It's like a shortened contract year for LJ. And last....the Chiefs, including the LJ pick, have made some terrible mistakes in the draft over the last couple of years. The defence is awful...and has been for years. We give up an average of 270 yards per game through the air alone. Tweener, reaches, and projects won't cut it anymore. I feel Carl avoids drafting a stud simply because he knows he's going to have to shell out some big dough for an impact player. The whole league and all Chief fans will be watching in April with extreme scrutiny. He has to score an A this time around. Trading LJ for the highest value will be a move we can all live with, IMO. We may have to parlay LJ and our 1st rounder for a higher pick to snag Rolle or Derrick Johnson....but so be it. The time has come to make a bold move, and LJ is part of the equation. It's like the Mariners picking up Beltre from the Dodgers...they just added 48 homers to their last place home run total from last season. We draft Derrick Johnson...we can add 10 more tackles at or behind the line of scrimmage. We add Rolle...there's possibly 8-10 TD's not scored against us next season. Carl is on the clock....and we are all watching....especially what he gets for LJ...because like it or not...it HAS to happen.
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12-16-2004, 08:41 PM	#29
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	People be saying Leon a punk bitch. Leon no punk bitch, Leon is 1st round man, 1st round. Leon deserve to have Priest sit his azz down, you here me down. Priest be an old fucker and Leon haz the skilz. Leon say fuck Priest he ain't got shit on Leon, Leon could teach Priest a thing or two. Leon be Hall of Fame material. Don't be jammin on Leon about no piddly Super Bowl, lotz of folk got Super Bowl rings, hell yea, Priest that punk ass he's got himself a Super Bowl ring. Leon wants to know did that punk azz Priest get drafted in the first round? Hell no. Give Leon his respect.
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12-16-2004, 09:19 PM	#30
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1356014	I don't want the guy gone, but I'd wish he'd shut his mouth-hole. Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't he supposed to be a "character guy" when we drafted him? If he keep his mouth shut, he might be the Chiefs' starting RB as soon as next year...doesn't he realize he is doing himself no good by running off at the mouth?
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