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12-22-2004, 03:11 PM

Do you agree. I hear all you talking about MLB but we can't keep throwing picks at that position. Kawika and beisel might be able to handle it there.

OLB might be needed in the draft but I want Corner or Defensive end.

Agree ?

Hoover · 12-22-2004, 04:18 PM

Thats why you go DE in the first. We can get a damn good DE at 15 or so. Its the fastest position to learn and its a player that can contribute right away

CanadaKC · 12-22-2004, 04:18 PM

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That kid out of Virginia, Ahmad Brooks, would be a nice fit IMO

We'll have a great shot at him...I hope we pick him. He's was a force on what was a great defense in college...and he stood out.
Derrick Johnson and Antrel Rolle we can now forget about...the Saints and Titans have their number. If Brooks is gone....we'll target CB...
either Justin Miller from Clemson (a good player) or Marlin Jackson from Michigan.

royr17 · 12-22-2004, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Hartwell would be great. I'd actually prefer a vet MLB at this point (considering our recent track record in the draft).

That kid out of Virginia, Ahmad Brooks, would be a nice fit IMO.

I agree with this, resign Scott Fujita or just start Keyaron Fox at Left Outside Linebacker next year, sign Ed Hartwell from the Ravens, and Draft Ahmad Brooks and we should have a very good LB core.

I would love the lineup of Fujita, Hartwell, and Brooks. The Brooks kid is gonna be a stud from what i've heard and i cant till the draft gets here I hope we draft him but we probably wouldnt have a shot at getting him at all more than likely.

LiL stumppy · 12-22-2004, 04:26 PM

Hes not that slow.Sue he can't talking but good coaching can help that.

HC_Chief · 12-22-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumpy

Hes not that slow.Sue he can't talking but good coaching can help that.

The sorry group of D coaches we have now certianly haven't taught anyone how to tackle... what makes you so sure that they'll suddenly learn how to teach tackling next year?

Fairplay · 12-22-2004, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Corner and DE are the two biggest needs IMO.

He speaks the truth.

craneref · 12-22-2004, 04:32 PM

I think the developement of Allen and Fox will help shape the draft. I think Allen will be one of the starting ends next year, so if you draft another DE, would you look at starting a rookie and a second year man. At LB I think Fox is going to be something special, you have Fujita who is fast and Fox who is faster. I would like to see Mitchell live up to his immense potential, but that goes for more than just a couple of current young Chiefs. Beisel is a good player, tough and old school. I think we are set a safety, with Woods and Wesley, youngsters Harts and Pile. To me, we need a CB who will stick you at the line, and then be inside your jock all the way to the locker room. Overall I agree that we need to go "D", look for speed, speed, speed and as much nasty as you can fit into the speed. GO CHIEFS.

HC_Chief · 12-22-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by royr17

I would love the lineup of Fujita, Hartwell, and Brooks.

That would be a RADICAL improvement. Hartwell and Fujita, we all know about. Brooks would be the only question mark.... but he does have size (6'4", ~240-250#) and speed (4.6). He's scary fast for that build. Plus, he can TACKLE. IMO that's what we need more than anything else: players who can TACKLE on defense.

LiL stumppy · 12-22-2004, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

The sorry group of D coaches we have now certianly haven't taught anyone how to tackle... what makes you so sure that they'll suddenly learn how to teach tackling next year?

I think him spending more time with Gunther and maybe learning from Mas will make him a good MLB.

tk13 · 12-22-2004, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Unless he's your top pick. I HATE it when we draft a player high, then sit him behind some shitty 'vet'. You made the guy your #1 pick for a reason. Now put him on the field and let him do his job.

Yeah, but still, I know there are some guys who are talents, but there aren't many corners that immediately jump into the NFL and play at the level that I think most of us hope to see in the secondary....

HC_Chief · 12-22-2004, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumpy

I think him spending more time with Gunther and maybe learning from Mas will make him a good MLB.

Hasn't worked through 14 games this season, I doubt it will happen next season. I certainly wouldn't take that risk.

But what do I know? Our coaching staff thought it best to start a converted DE at MLB on opening day, so I obviously have no clue

HC_Chief · 12-22-2004, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah, but still, I know there are some guys who are talents, but there aren't many corners that immediately jump into the NFL and play at the level that I think most of us hope to see in the secondary....

A rookie would be no worse than Bartee. IMO the odds are actually in favor of the rookie playing BETTER than "never turn my head, give up on plays" Bill.

craneref · 12-22-2004, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

A rookie would be no worse than Bartee. IMO the odds are actually in favor of the rookie playing BETTER than "never turn my head, give up on plays" Bill.

Wait a minute, if Bartee actually turned his head, he might make a play and throw of his consistency. I agree, sometimes it is addition by subtraction.

LiL stumppy · 12-22-2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Hasn't worked through 14 games this season, I doubt it will happen next season. I certainly wouldn't take that risk.

But what do I know? Our coaching staff thought it best to start a converted DE at MLB on opening day, so I obviously have no clue

Well I think the more time with gun that he will be a decent MLB.

Hoover · 12-22-2004, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumpy

I think him spending more time with Gunther and maybe learning from Mas will make him a good MLB.

PEOPLE PLEASE GET OVER MAZ HE IS DONE

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