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Old 01-11-2005, 08:15 PM  
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According to tonights paper the rat sezs the broncs need just a slight tune up to be a top caliber team.
He said that he has a great quarterback all they need is a few touch ups here and there.
wonder what he's been sucking up his nose, man he sounds like a man thats taken a few shots to many to the head
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Old 01-11-2005, 10:24 PM   #16
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Sounds like you recovered quicker than I did and I don't even like the Donkeys. You must have been prepared for it, iminate or something like that.
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Old 01-11-2005, 10:38 PM   #17
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Old 01-11-2005, 10:40 PM   #18
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Old 01-11-2005, 11:09 PM   #19
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A first I think with SNR............but gave him a neg rep.........I am so tired of everything being DVs problems........ That is my rant.......but chit, wake the FAULK UP...........Coach isn't the one playing!!
who decides which players to keep?


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Old 01-12-2005, 06:39 AM   #20
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:30 AM   #21
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Well if you had a scale of 1 to 10 on needing to improve your team... "drastic overhaul" being 1 and "bordering on greatness" being 10 ... I would give Denver a 7 (6.56477 - just rounded up).

There are no glaring big dollar FAs to resign, but there are 3 key guys to resign. And, as I look at the team, TE and pass rush are the two focus areas in my mind. The rest is depth.

Denver had some injuries hit and the depth didn't cut it. Right now, they're a team that has the makings of one that will win 9-10 wins a year, but that's it. There's a solid nucleus.
I hope this is really the way the donx front office looks at their year(same way the chiefs looked at 03/04). IMO the donx overachieved this year and will probably fall to 7-9 or worse next year.
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:34 AM   #22
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I hope this is really the way the donx front office looks at their year(same way the chiefs looked at 03/04). IMO the donx overachieved this year and will probably fall to 7-9 or worse next year.
Eh, that's more wishful thinking on your part than reality. They have a lot of great talent, just haven't put it all together.

I'm not suggesting they would have beaten Indy, but had Walls and Middlebrooks been available... they would have had more options in the secondary. Relying on Alexander to cover Wayne was murder, considering he was a relatively untested rookie.
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:38 AM   #23
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I dont think the donks are going to fall off significantly next year. I think they will be a 7-10 win team that'll get hammered in the playoffs if they make it, like they have been for what, 6 or 7 years now?
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:43 AM   #24
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I dont think the donks are going to fall off significantly next year. I think they will be a 7-10 win team that'll get hammered in the playoffs if they make it, like they have been for what, 6 or 7 years now?
6 ... going on 7 years...

In all seriousness, losing your #1 and #2 CB option on that side hurt them late in the year. Roc wasn't ready. If those guys are healthy, then who knows... Maybe the score is 38 - 24.

Heh. The pass rush and TE are my concerns. Barring injury, they won't be below .500 in 2005. They should win 9-10 games, we'll just see how they address things.

I like the emergence of Watts and Luke. I'm hoping that if they can get a solid TE, using Putzier as depth or for blocking... they can get more creative.
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Every team is going to have injuries every year though. This year it was corner and Pryce, next year it will be something else. You probably won't be lucky enough for it to be QB, either.
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:50 AM   #26
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Every team is going to have injuries every year though. This year it was corner and Pryce, next year it will be something else. You probably won't be lucky enough for it to be QB, either.
Very true. I'm not trying to use that as an excuse, it's just a fact. They had good depth, but when you lose your first 2 guys on the chart, bad things will happen. I didn't like the way they addressed the Dline. I accepted the "veteran patchwork rotation". I can't recall when Pryce went down, but I believe when it was known he might miss some time - they pulled off the deal with Atlanta for their player.

They tried to be frugal on the line and it showed.

The defense has been solid in all areas except for sacks and turnovers. Hopefully, that improves and it did a bit when David Gibbs was canned.

Every year, teams get hit with injuries ... you're correct. And, I don't want Plummer to get injured.
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Every year, teams get hit with injuries ... you're correct. And, I don't want Plummer to get injured.
I was just joking. But seriously, where is he going to be next year if Rod Smith retires? Ending up benched at some point?

Even if he can be adequate at some points, does your team really want a QB they have to chain down to keep from screwing something up? Are you really in good shape if you have to design your offense around the considerable shortcomings of its central player? Shouldn't it be designed around your competencies instead?

Don't understand why Shanarat has staked himself to Plummer... but I would think about bringing in something servicable at #2 this offseason..
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:36 AM   #28
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I was just joking. But seriously, where is he going to be next year if Rod Smith retires? Ending up benched at some point?

Even if he can be adequate at some points, does your team really want a QB they have to chain down to keep from screwing something up? Are you really in good shape if you have to design your offense around the considerable shortcomings of its central player? Shouldn't it be designed around your competencies instead?

Don't understand why Shanarat has staked himself to Plummer... but I would think about bringing in something servicable at #2 this offseason..
good points.........it reminds me of Grbac and Marty. We saw what that got the Chiefs
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Cochise... let's say that I agreed with you and hated having Plummer on my team. What's the best option?

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I don't recall the complete list of available QBs the year they signed Plummer, but I don't recall another more viable option out there.

Yes, he has shortcomings. The offense should be built around the running game, IMO. Plummer didn't just trip into 4,000+ yds and 27 TDs by accident.

The team has won 19 of the 27 that he has started... with Portis, Q, Anderson, Droughns and Bell all doing very well at times running the football.

So, build the offense around running the ball... realize his limitations in the pocket and roll with it.

Plummer has 6,200 passing yards and 46 total TDs (4 rushing) in 27 starts over two seasons. That's not bad. Yes, the INTs are high, but all they can do is be more creative on the passing game.

Bring in a solid and consistent pass catching TE. Work with Watts and Luke, build them into the game plan more now that they have a year in the system. Lelie and Smith had fine seasons and Lelie is really becoming a deep threat.

It's not like I'm staring at an offense with Kyle Boller taking snaps. He has his limitations... all they can do is accept them and move on.

This is the situation where the "offensive mastermind" should prove worthy of the title, so far it's been hit and miss.
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Cochise... let's say that I agreed with you and hated having Plummer on my team. What's the best option?

Shane Matthews UFA Bills
Jim Miller UFA Patriots
Sage Rosenfels UFA Dolphins
Josh Harris ERFA Ravens
Kordell Stewart UFA Ravens
Kelly Holcomb UFA Browns
Charlie Batch UFA Steelers
Tony Banks UFA Texans
Matt Mauck ERFA Broncos
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Todd Collins UFA Chiefs
Damon Huard UFA Chiefs
David Rivers ERFA Raiders
Drew Brees UFA Chargers
Mike McMahon UFA Lions
Rick Mirer UFA Lions
Craig Nall RFA Packers
Doug Pederson UFA Packers
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Josh McCown RFA Cardinals
Matt Hasselbeck UFA Seahawks
Brock Huard UFA Seahawks
Ty Detmer UFA Falcons
Rod Rutherford ERFA Panthers
Vinny Testaverde UFA Cowboys
Jesse Palmer UFA Giants
Jeff Blake UFA Eagles
Tim Hasselbeck ERFA Redskins

I don't recall the complete list of available QBs the year they signed Plummer, but I don't recall another more viable option out there.

Yes, he has shortcomings. The offense should be built around the running game, IMO. Plummer didn't just trip into 4,000+ yds and 27 TDs by accident.

The team has won 19 of the 27 that he has started... with Portis, Q, Anderson, Droughns and Bell all doing very well at times running the football.

So, build the offense around running the ball... realize his limitations in the pocket and roll with it.

Plummer has 6,200 passing yards and 46 total TDs (4 rushing) in 27 starts over two seasons. That's not bad. Yes, the INTs are high, but all they can do is be more creative on the passing game.

Bring in a solid and consistent pass catching TE. Work with Watts and Luke, build them into the game plan more now that they have a year in the system. Lelie and Smith had fine seasons and Lelie is really becoming a deep threat.

It's not like I'm staring at an offense with Kyle Boller taking snaps. He has his limitations... all they can do is accept them and move on.

This is the situation where the "offensive mastermind" should prove worthy of the title, so far it's been hit and miss.
There seemed to be a lot of chatter on the orange mange for Kordell last year..........give him a shot
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