Looking ahead ['cause looking back hurts too much] - Page 2

DoktorSmith · 12-04-2000, 09:41 AM

While I will be watching the games in my red gear and yelling at the screen, I have officially abandoned all hope for the season. There were some bright spots [Wesley, Grbac, Morris, Gonzalez, Sauerbrun, so forth], but the coaches are so lame that they overcame the most talented roster in memory.

So, moving on to next season, what do we need and how do we get it?

In order:

1. Coaching staff. The single worst problem on the team. We get this by Carl realizing that his job is not as secure as he thought at the beginning of the season. Carl hears the groundswell of anger and disappointment from the red faithful and fires Gunther. The new HC brings in his own coordinating staff.

2. HB. We get this via FA. Despite our best efforts, we will not lose enough games to draft a quality HB, so we get a veteran who can contribute immediately [Dillon, Garner, Barber, so forth].

3. DT. Wave goodbye to McGlockton and Williams. Take the cap hit now and move on. Draft a DT with the #1 or #2 pick and get another DT in FA.

4. LB. Wave goodbye to Bush. Draft a fast, strong OLB with the #1 or #2 pick. Play Edwards at OLB and Maslowski at ML.

5. OL. Wave goodbye to Szott, Grunhard and Shields. Szott is finished, Grunhard will probably [and should] retire and Shields wants a big paycheck. The megabucks for Shields are better spent on that FA HB. Move Riley to ORG and put Alford at ORT. Keep Willis as OC. Look for a FA who can pull and beat out Blackshear at OLG. Draft OL in later rounds for depth and the future.

6. QB. Renegotiate Grbac to a long-term contract, without that obscene roster bonus. Wave goodbye to Moon and obtain the services of a project at #3 QB, either later in the draft or via FA.

xoxo~
gaz
making big plans for the future.

12-04-2000, 03:22 PM

Cormac, the way Teischer said it, it will take 7 mil for Glock AND 4.2 for Williams. And I hate to rain on the parade of whoever said he didn't care about the cap, but the NFL is really going to come down hard on the next violator. Policy and the 49ers got off lucky, they have already said, the next time at least two #1s are going to be taken, so this is going to be harder and harder.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan · 12-04-2000, 03:26 PM

The concept of "sunk costs" comes immediately to mind.

Moon§hiner · 12-04-2000, 03:30 PM

Everybody is violating the cap, with the exception of Cincinnati.

**Baby Lee** · 12-04-2000, 03:32 PM

Gaz,
in reply to #6, what do we do for a #2 QB?

And don't even say Collins, or i'll never reply to another of your posts again. [img]http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/mad.gif[/img]

Gaz · 12-04-2000, 03:33 PM

kcred,

Thanks for the clarification :(. Even worse than I had thought......... [img]http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]

DoktorSmith · 12-05-2000, 08:37 AM

Mi_Chief_fan-

The #2 QB is a veteran. Someone who has been there, done that. There will be some journeyman FA QBs who are not good enough to be starters, but would be fine backups [I can hear the folks howling that we already have that in Grbac].

I would bring in FA QBs [maybe the Billy Joe twins are available?] to fight it out with Collins and let the best man win. Then go draft for a "diamond in the rough" QB to ruin develop.

xoxo~
gaz
realizes he might end up with Collins again.

DoktorSmith · 12-05-2000, 08:38 AM

Mi_Chief_fan-

The #2 QB is a veteran. Someone who has been there, done that. There will be some journeyman FA QBs who are not good enough to be starters, but would be fine backups [I can hear the folks howling that we already have that in Grbac].

I would bring in FA QBs [maybe the Billy Joe twins are available?] to fight it out with Collins and let the best man win. Then go draft for a "diamond in the rough" QB to ruin develop.

xoxo~
gaz
realizes he might end up with Collins again.

**Baby Lee** · 12-05-2000, 08:53 AM

Gaz,
I don't think it's coincidence both of the Billy Joe's initials are BJ. :)

There's got to be better backups out there.

How about that Frerotte guy? He's done a decent job?

DoktorSmith · 12-05-2000, 09:31 AM

Mi_chief_fan-

The Billy Joe Twins bit was a joke [in more ways than one]. Actually, I would not be surprised to see the Chiefs stand pat with Collins. Disappointed, but not surprised.

xoxo~
gaz
has learned to fear his team's managers.

micin · 12-05-2000, 09:57 AM

The DL is the strongest unit of the D, so I don't think you should mess with it by dumping the ambulance twins. Yeah the DL costs too much, but it is functional and we have more pressing needs at LB and DB and at RB and OL. Dumping them just makes the cap situation worse, plus we need to find two new bodies to plug in the holes.

Hasty has talked about retirement the last two seasons. With the down turn of the Chiefs, you gotta wonder if he will come back. If he retires the young corners will have to improve greatly or we are gonna stink real bad next year regardless of any changes we make in coaches or players. I think a shut-down man-to-man corner has to enter the list of must-haves for the re-tooling of the D.

Entering the season I thought we were a stud RB away from being a very strong contender. Now you can add 2 OL, 1 LB, and at least 1 CB to that list. All of the sudden, there are a bunch of holes to fill on this team.

redfan · 12-05-2000, 10:01 AM

Gaz,
Do you support retaining Peterson? I know you have asked before for a "viable" replacement, but do you have faith that Carl is the man to rebuild this team? The weaknesses you list have not been addressed to this point. What evidence has Carl given that he will do anything but bandage(and I mean one of those little circle bandages) the current problems? Bandages like Rison, when you can't draft a WR. Or Bam Morris when you can't draft a RB. As for a "viable" replacement, Kevin Harlan was on the radio with several names of respected men throughout the league who may be ready to become GMs. Butler from Buffalo, Hatley from Chicago. Diamond has been discussed. Donahue, Beatherd. Your "to do" list looks like a complete overhaul. Do you stick with the original designer?

Stuckinbama · 12-05-2000, 10:12 AM

Gaz,
I agree with your post except when it comes to Carl Peterson. If you would jus replace his name with JEFF DIAMOND I'd agree 100% with your well thought take on the state of affairs at One Arrowhead Drive. I know that Lamar would never get rid of Carl but Carl is not beyond moving on himself. Bt then it might be worse because Lamar would probaly appoint Denny Thumb or someone else from within. All I want for X-mas is for Lamar to Hire JEFF DIAMOND as G.M.!

12-04-2000, 09:41 AM
DoktorSmith Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10004900	While I will be watching the games in my red gear and yelling at the screen, I have officially abandoned all hope for the season. There were some bright spots [Wesley, Grbac, Morris, Gonzalez, Sauerbrun, so forth], but the coaches are so lame that they overcame the most talented roster in memory. So, moving on to next season, what do we need and how do we get it? In order: 1. Coaching staff. The single worst problem on the team. We get this by Carl realizing that his job is not as secure as he thought at the beginning of the season. Carl hears the groundswell of anger and disappointment from the red faithful and fires Gunther. The new HC brings in his own coordinating staff. 2. HB. We get this via FA. Despite our best efforts, we will not lose enough games to draft a quality HB, so we get a veteran who can contribute immediately [Dillon, Garner, Barber, so forth]. 3. DT. Wave goodbye to McGlockton and Williams. Take the cap hit now and move on. Draft a DT with the #1 or #2 pick and get another DT in FA. 4. LB. Wave goodbye to Bush. Draft a fast, strong OLB with the #1 or #2 pick. Play Edwards at OLB and Maslowski at ML. 5. OL. Wave goodbye to Szott, Grunhard and Shields. Szott is finished, Grunhard will probably [and should] retire and Shields wants a big paycheck. The megabucks for Shields are better spent on that FA HB. Move Riley to ORG and put Alford at ORT. Keep Willis as OC. Look for a FA who can pull and beat out Blackshear at OLG. Draft OL in later rounds for depth and the future. 6. QB. Renegotiate Grbac to a long-term contract, without that obscene roster bonus. Wave goodbye to Moon and obtain the services of a project at #3 QB, either later in the draft or via FA. xoxo~ gaz making big plans for the future.<BR>
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12-04-2000, 03:22 PM	#16
Lurker Brett Guest Casino cash: $	Cormac, the way Teischer said it, it will take 7 mil for Glock AND 4.2 for Williams. And I hate to rain on the parade of whoever said he didn't care about the cap, but the NFL is really going to come down hard on the next violator. Policy and the 49ers got off lucky, they have already said, the next time at least two #1s are going to be taken, so this is going to be harder and harder.
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12-04-2000, 03:26 PM	#17
Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan I am Number Six Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Columbia, MD, USA Casino cash: $244000	The concept of "sunk costs" comes immediately to mind.
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12-04-2000, 03:30 PM	#18
Moon§hiner Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas, USA Casino cash: $10005272	Everybody is violating the cap, with the exception of Cincinnati.
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12-04-2000, 03:32 PM	#19
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $8318275	Gaz, in reply to #6, what do we do for a #2 QB? And don't even say Collins, or i'll never reply to another of your posts again. [img]http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/mad.gif[/img]
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12-04-2000, 03:33 PM	#20
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	kcred, Thanks for the clarification :(. Even worse than I had thought......... [img]http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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12-05-2000, 08:37 AM	#21
DoktorSmith Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10004900	Mi_Chief_fan- The #2 QB is a veteran. Someone who has been there, done that. There will be some journeyman FA QBs who are not good enough to be starters, but would be fine backups [I can hear the folks howling that we already have that in Grbac]. I would bring in FA QBs [maybe the Billy Joe twins are available?] to fight it out with Collins and let the best man win. Then go draft for a "diamond in the rough" QB to ruin develop. xoxo~ gaz realizes he might end up with Collins again.<BR>
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12-05-2000, 08:38 AM	#22
DoktorSmith Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10004900	Mi_Chief_fan- The #2 QB is a veteran. Someone who has been there, done that. There will be some journeyman FA QBs who are not good enough to be starters, but would be fine backups [I can hear the folks howling that we already have that in Grbac]. I would bring in FA QBs [maybe the Billy Joe twins are available?] to fight it out with Collins and let the best man win. Then go draft for a "diamond in the rough" QB to ruin develop. xoxo~ gaz realizes he might end up with Collins again.<BR>
Posts: 1,705

12-05-2000, 08:53 AM	#23
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $8318275	Gaz, I don't think it's coincidence both of the Billy Joe's initials are BJ. :) There's got to be better backups out there. How about that Frerotte guy? He's done a decent job?
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12-05-2000, 09:31 AM	#24
DoktorSmith Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10004900	Mi_chief_fan- The Billy Joe Twins bit was a joke [in more ways than one]. Actually, I would not be surprised to see the Chiefs stand pat with Collins. Disappointed, but not surprised. xoxo~ gaz has learned to fear his team's managers.<BR>
Posts: 1,705

12-05-2000, 09:57 AM	#25
micin Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cincinnati,Ohio USA Casino cash: $10004900	The DL is the strongest unit of the D, so I don't think you should mess with it by dumping the ambulance twins. Yeah the DL costs too much, but it is functional and we have more pressing needs at LB and DB and at RB and OL. Dumping them just makes the cap situation worse, plus we need to find two new bodies to plug in the holes. Hasty has talked about retirement the last two seasons. With the down turn of the Chiefs, you gotta wonder if he will come back. If he retires the young corners will have to improve greatly or we are gonna stink real bad next year regardless of any changes we make in coaches or players. I think a shut-down man-to-man corner has to enter the list of must-haves for the re-tooling of the D. Entering the season I thought we were a stud RB away from being a very strong contender. Now you can add 2 OL, 1 LB, and at least 1 CB to that list. All of the sudden, there are a bunch of holes to fill on this team.
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12-05-2000, 10:01 AM	#26
redfan Gargling the sweet nectar Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Along the Interurban Casino cash: $491852	Gaz, Do you support retaining Peterson? I know you have asked before for a "viable" replacement, but do you have faith that Carl is the man to rebuild this team? The weaknesses you list have not been addressed to this point. What evidence has Carl given that he will do anything but bandage(and I mean one of those little circle bandages) the current problems? Bandages like Rison, when you can't draft a WR. Or Bam Morris when you can't draft a RB. As for a "viable" replacement, Kevin Harlan was on the radio with several names of respected men throughout the league who may be ready to become GMs. Butler from Buffalo, Hatley from Chicago. Diamond has been discussed. Donahue, Beatherd. Your "to do" list looks like a complete overhaul. Do you stick with the original designer?
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12-05-2000, 10:12 AM	#27
Stuckinbama International Gun Runner Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Madison, AL USA Casino cash: $10004900	Gaz, I agree with your post except when it comes to Carl Peterson. If you would jus replace his name with JEFF DIAMOND I'd agree 100% with your well thought take on the state of affairs at One Arrowhead Drive. I know that Lamar would never get rid of Carl but Carl is not beyond moving on himself. Bt then it might be worse because Lamar would probaly appoint Denny Thumb or someone else from within. All I want for X-mas is for Lamar to Hire JEFF DIAMOND as G.M.!<BR>
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