Grading Carl Peterson's offseason moves.... - Page 2

CHIEF4EVER · 03-09-2005, 10:38 AM

[rant]I just got back from the road and finally have a few days off to get my Planet fix. However, I have been closely following the personnel moves (non moves) on Sirius NFL channel. I grade Peterson's performance as follows:

1) Not signing Samari Rolle. F-

We had him here and nobody in this world can tell me they believe the BS reason CP gave as to why they didn't sign him. "Narrowing of the Spine"? Just how friggin stupid does Peterson think we are? When I heard that, the Peterson Screwed-the-Pooch O Meter went off the fuggin scale.

2) Signing Kendrell Bell. C (at best).

We don't sign a perfectly healthy top notch corner who is rarely injured if at all; but instead sign a LB who is top notch WHEN HEALTHY. The same one who missed all but 3 games last year because HE WAS INJURED. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE the signing. It was the sheer illogic of it that makes me want to take a chain saw to Peterson's car. Not to mention, why sign a player that has a history of injury in all but his rookie year over one (Ed Hartwell) who is young and healthy to a long term deal?

3) Not signing Fred Smoot. F-

After NOT signing Rolle, he fuggs this up too. If we had gotten Bell and Smoot I would have been exstatic. But, we have Bell and nothing else at this point. Granted, the new rules make a shutdown corner an anachronism but we still play in a Division with the likes of Lelie, Moss, etc.... Can anyone confidently say that Crispy, Toasty or McNugget can cover Moss for even a few seconds? Corner is still a high priority. Nice job Carl.

Summary: Final grade thus far...D-

Our offense isn't getting any younger and we have 1 or maybe 2 runs at the big dance left before the offense has to be retooled. I had hoped CP and Co would go all out for a run NOW by getting as many (within financial boundaries) defensive upgrades as possible. I have been in CP's corner for many years now but this offseason is making me rethink that position. If the remaining offseason moves (FA and draft) don't give us a middle of the rod defense AT THE VERY LEAST, I am all for dragging our GM through the streets behind his own SUV by his entrails. Mr Peterson, if you want to mess up a team please go elsewhere and do so. [/rant]

Gaz · 03-09-2005, 11:15 AM

“… a perfectly healthy top notch corner who is rarely injured if at all…”

No, that is not Rolle. He has a medical condition that can lead to serious consequences. That precludes “perfectly healthy.”

xoxo~
Gaz
Looked up the definition of “perfectly” and “healthy” and does not get to Rolle from there.

CHIEF4EVER · 03-09-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaz

“… a perfectly healthy top notch corner who is rarely injured if at all…”

No, that is not Rolle. He has a medical condition that can lead to serious consequences. That precludes “perfectly healthy.”

xoxo~
Gaz
Looked up the definition of “perfectly” and “healthy” and does not get to Rolle from there.

A condition that hasn't kept him from playing 101 out of 112 games in the last 7 years. Sorry, that "condition" was a lame azz excuse by CP to cover up the fact that he humped the canine on that deal.

**ChiTown** · 03-09-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaz

Okay, THAT was funny.

Sad, but true: someone [and I must admit I paid it all the attention it deserved] already posted our Win/Loss record for this year.

xoxo~
Gaz
Saving up his FA outrage for July 22nd.

Damnit! I already missed THIS season? ****ing

work

**Skip Towne** · 03-09-2005, 11:21 AM

My years of experience on the Planet have taught me that some people just like to bitch. I used to work with a guy we called "Donnie the bitcher".

HC_Chief · 03-09-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaz

“… a perfectly healthy top notch corner who is rarely injured if at all…”

No, that is not Rolle. He has a medical condition that can lead to serious consequences. That precludes “perfectly healthy.”

xoxo~
Gaz
Looked up the definition of “perfectly” and “healthy” and does not get to Rolle from there.

That's bullshit and you know it. Rolle has a congenital narrowing of the spine. It has not affected him in his entire footabll career - from pee-wee league through Pro Bowl NFL seasons.

Don't spout off the party line like some brainless sheep Gaz, you're smarter than that.

milkman · 03-09-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Can we go ahead and grade the draft now, too?

D.

Cormac · 03-09-2005, 11:27 AM

You know what's really funny about this offseason:

Now people are making noise about how great the WRs are in our division, and the best they can come up with is Lelie and Moss.

Is this the same Lelie that everybody laughs at the Donks for drafting, or is there a different Lelie in the AFC West that I am supposed to be scared of?

Gimme a break!

Gaz · 03-09-2005, 11:33 AM

HC_Chief-

I am not one to spout a party line. I think you know that.

Rolle has a congenital condition that could cause serious problems down the road. That does not qualify as “perfectly healthy” by any criteria. Personally, I am glad the Chiefs passed on him.

xoxo~
Gaz
Seldom invited to any parties.

Dr. Van Halen · 03-09-2005, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

That's bullshit and you know it. Rolle has a congenital narrowing of the spine. It has not affected him in his entire footabll career - from pee-wee league through Pro Bowl NFL seasons.

Don't spout off the party line like some brainless sheep Gaz, you're smarter than that.

And you, HC Chief, don't spout the local anti-Carl crap.

"Spinal stenosis (narrowing of the spine)(Rolle's issue) usually starts gradually and develops over a long period of time. Narrowing of the spinal canal can squeeze and irritate the nerve roots that branch out from the spinal cord, or it can squeeze and irritate the spinal cord itself. This may cause pain, cramping, numbness, or weakness, most often in the legs, feet, and buttocks. Symptoms may be severe at times, and less severe at other times...

Spinal stenosis usually occurs in the lower (lumbar) back of the spine. When it does occur in the neck (cervical) region, it may cause pain, numbness, and/or weakness in the arms, hands, and/or legs.

Severe disability is not common. However, if symptoms become severe, they often do not improve without surgery. Severe symptoms may restrict your normal daily activities and affect your quality of life. If symptoms are still severe after a period of time of nonsurgical treatment, surgery may be considered. Surgery may not be an option for some older adults who have other serious health problems that make surgery too risky."
-Web MD

If I was genetically predisposed to contract cancer, but haven't yet, doesn't mean I could breathe a sigh of relief and start smoking five packs a day. Just because Roll'e spine hasn't effected him yet, doesn't mean it wouldn't end his career. It has done so to a few players already. What would be a minor injury on someone else could develop into a serious injury in him.

htismaqe · 03-09-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CHIEF4EVER

A condition that hasn't kept him from playing 101 out of 112 games in the last 7 years. Sorry, that "condition" was a lame azz excuse by CP to cover up the fact that he humped the canine on that deal.

On the injury report over 50% of the time.

It has nothing to do with his "condition". He IS injury prone and your comments are laughable.

CHIEF4EVER · 03-09-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

On the injury report over 50% of the time.

It has nothing to do with his "condition". He IS injury prone and your comments are laughable.

Whatever you say sport. You are entitled to your opinion just as I am.

Hoover · 03-09-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CHIEF4EVER

A condition that hasn't kept him from playing 101 out of 112 games in the last 7 years. Sorry, that "condition" was a lame azz excuse by CP to cover up the fact that he humped the canine on that deal.

Its not as if Rolle has played evey game in the last 2 years.

htismaqe · 03-09-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CHIEF4EVER

Whatever you say sport. You are entitled to your opinion just as I am.

And I'm entitled to laugh at your opinion when it has no basis in fact.

Gaz · 03-09-2005, 11:45 AM

Here is Rolle’s injury resumé:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo.../injuries.html

Clearly, “perfectly healthy” is not accurate.

xoxo~
Gaz
Perfectly correct.

htismaqe · 03-09-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Its not as if Rolle has played evey game in the last 2 years.

Come on Hoover, don't be dense. Rolle has no injury concerns. Carl is a moron.

03-09-2005, 10:38 AM
CHIEF4EVER Just a man in the 'ghan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jalalabad, Afghanistan Casino cash: $10004900	Grading Carl Peterson's offseason moves.... [rant]I just got back from the road and finally have a few days off to get my Planet fix. However, I have been closely following the personnel moves (non moves) on Sirius NFL channel. I grade Peterson's performance as follows: 1) Not signing Samari Rolle. F- We had him here and nobody in this world can tell me they believe the BS reason CP gave as to why they didn't sign him. "Narrowing of the Spine"? Just how friggin stupid does Peterson think we are? When I heard that, the Peterson Screwed-the-Pooch O Meter went off the fuggin scale. 2) Signing Kendrell Bell. C (at best). We don't sign a perfectly healthy top notch corner who is rarely injured if at all; but instead sign a LB who is top notch WHEN HEALTHY. The same one who missed all but 3 games last year because HE WAS INJURED. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE the signing. It was the sheer illogic of it that makes me want to take a chain saw to Peterson's car. Not to mention, why sign a player that has a history of injury in all but his rookie year over one (Ed Hartwell) who is young and healthy to a long term deal? 3) Not signing Fred Smoot. F- After NOT signing Rolle, he fuggs this up too. If we had gotten Bell and Smoot I would have been exstatic. But, we have Bell and nothing else at this point. Granted, the new rules make a shutdown corner an anachronism but we still play in a Division with the likes of Lelie, Moss, etc.... Can anyone confidently say that Crispy, Toasty or McNugget can cover Moss for even a few seconds? Corner is still a high priority. Nice job Carl. Summary: Final grade thus far...D- Our offense isn't getting any younger and we have 1 or maybe 2 runs at the big dance left before the offense has to be retooled. I had hoped CP and Co would go all out for a run NOW by getting as many (within financial boundaries) defensive upgrades as possible. I have been in CP's corner for many years now but this offseason is making me rethink that position. If the remaining offseason moves (FA and draft) don't give us a middle of the rod defense AT THE VERY LEAST, I am all for dragging our GM through the streets behind his own SUV by his entrails. Mr Peterson, if you want to mess up a team please go elsewhere and do so. [/rant]
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03-09-2005, 11:15 AM	#16
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	Nope... “… a perfectly healthy top notch corner who is rarely injured if at all…” No, that is not Rolle. He has a medical condition that can lead to serious consequences. That precludes “perfectly healthy.” xoxo~ Gaz Looked up the definition of “perfectly” and “healthy” and does not get to Rolle from there.
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03-09-2005, 11:21 AM	#19
Skip Towne Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: T-Town Casino cash: $10004900	My years of experience on the Planet have taught me that some people just like to bitch. I used to work with a guy we called "Donnie the bitcher".
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03-09-2005, 11:27 AM	#22
Cormac Haley sceptic.... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: waiting it out....... Casino cash: $10004900	You know what's really funny about this offseason: Now people are making noise about how great the WRs are in our division, and the best they can come up with is Lelie and Moss. Is this the same Lelie that everybody laughs at the Donks for drafting, or is there a different Lelie in the AFC West that I am supposed to be scared of? Gimme a break!
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03-09-2005, 11:33 AM	#23
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	I think not... HC_Chief- I am not one to spout a party line. I think you know that. Rolle has a congenital condition that could cause serious problems down the road. That does not qualify as “perfectly healthy” by any criteria. Personally, I am glad the Chiefs passed on him. xoxo~ Gaz Seldom invited to any parties.
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03-09-2005, 11:45 AM	#29
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	Check it out, folks... Here is Rolle’s injury resumé: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo.../injuries.html Clearly, “perfectly healthy” is not accurate. xoxo~ Gaz Perfectly correct.
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