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Vegas_Dave · 07-26-2005, 08:52 PM

My wife works for an orthodontist. As with many dental practices, it is mainly a female environment. In this case, between his 2 offices, the only 2 guys who work there are himself and the other orthodontist he employs.

Most of the women in this office are single and frankly, most of them are downright b*tches.

So the doctor (who is LDS) always like to treat his women to something big at the end of the year. Last year, it was take them all to Celine Dion and a REALLY expensive dinner and then give them each about $1000 that they had to spend on themselves at the Forum at Ceasars.

Sounds great...

This year, I find out that he wants to take all of them to New York for a week, all expenses and shows paid.

Wow, sounds like a nice guy...

Wait for it...

Spouses are not allowed.

This is not a selfish why cant I go thing with me. But my wife and I have 2 very youung boys, 1 & 3 years old. I work my ass off running my family business. She and I have wanted to go to New York together for quite a while. Also, lets keep in mind that she does not get along with most of the women in her office.

Not to mention that in my opinion, any big thing like that or employee party should always be spouses invited (since I am an employer myself).

So is it bad of me to be opposed to her going? Am I wrong in thinking, OK, my wife goes to New York without me, somewhere we have wanted to go together, and I have to work my ass off at work, spend a total of 2 hours per day for a week trekking my 2 boys all over town for babysitting, not to mention then having to be the sole provider for them every waking moment during that time while she is having a blast, Without her husband...

serious opinions needed....

I seriously could bunch the shit out of my walls right now.

chiefs4me · 07-26-2005, 09:52 PM

I can just see the look on my hubby's face if I told him the boss was taking me to new york for a week and paying for everything...without spouses going...

You build an awesome work enviroment by including the spouses and children...

stevieray · 07-26-2005, 09:52 PM

[QUOTE=Vegas_Dave]

What bothers me is that I personally would never do a week of something so stellar if the stipulation is that my wife has to stay home and take care of EVERYTHING when as a general rule, we split overall the home down the middle as far as taking care of our responsibilities as parents.
QUOTE]

You can do it...someday you might HAVE to.

Are you a little nervous about being without her while taking care of the kids? I'd say that's pretty normal, we as men like to put abuttload of responsibility on our wives , especially when it comes to toddlers...

el borracho · 07-26-2005, 09:53 PM

I am not a fan of separate vacations. The point of going out with someone is to go out with that person when you are able.

It would also be different if she wanted to go somewhere you were not interested in going, but this is somewhere you would like to go.

P.S. I would cosider the parental responsibilities and the wife's at-work relations as mostly irrelevant to the discussion.

**Bwana** · 07-26-2005, 09:59 PM

Hmmm? I just put my wife and kids on a plane today to go visit her mother in BARBADOS. There was no way in hell I was going to spend 8 days with her mother in BARBADOS in fricken JULY. She just called and told me it was VERY HOT........errrr no chit.

I don't know what to tell you Dave. All I know is I am going to eat a lot of steaks and pull down a lot of beer in the next 8 days.

07-26-2005, 10:05 PM

I remember when my ex-wife used to go out of town for work related things alone. Fond memories.

wutamess · 07-26-2005, 10:08 PM

First off...
The orthodontis must be single or gay.

Secondly...
My wife wouldn't be going ANYWHERE with a bunch of single people as I wouldn't myself.

Thirdly...
That has to be one of the dumbest propositions by an employer if there's one person in the group that's married (especially with kids).

forthly...
Wouldn't it buiild more of a bonding environment if everyone got to know each other on a person level. For instance, if he took everyone to NY and had an itenerary set up for you guys then you could join in the festivities. She's half a person without you there. Besides doesn't sound like the boss is very fond or thoughtful of your wife.

Fifth and last but not least as a matter of factly...
Why in the hell is this even debatable? You wife doesn't have sense to know that she shouldn't go there without you, then something's just not right. I'm thinking you have more problems than just a NY trip with the "singles group" and her boss.

~Hope it all works out.

stevieray · 07-26-2005, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

I remember when my ex-wife used to go out of town for work related things alone. Fond memories.

really? what happened?

07-26-2005, 10:10 PM

She met this dude named Steve who made her poo in his mouth. I found the pictures. Dude looked just like Elvis.

**Iowanian** · 07-26-2005, 10:10 PM

If it were all legit...and he wasn't looking to Lay some pipe.....Spouses would be allowed to attend...and buy their own Shows.

Brideowanian would NOT be attending that trip.

The Cloud of dust you see pluming, and the Shaking thud you feel is my Foot Stomping[/foot down] Hell No.

If he was doing it legit, to be nice....He'd give her a cash bonus if she doesn't go.

If you allow it to happen....and no way would I....huh uh...and she goes...I vote you send the kids to Grandma's for that week, and host A Boars' week in Lost Wages for The Planet's finest.

I'll Re-Itterate....NO WAY, does a Strait man fund this trip, for this many single women without alterior intentions.

stevieray · 07-26-2005, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

She met this dude named Steve who made her poo in his mouth. I found the pictures. Dude looked just like Elvis.

wow, no wonder she left you.

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-26-2005, 11:54 PM

What I would do, what I would do.

Hire a bunch of hot ass big tittie chicks to work for me and do the same thing.

**Anyong Bluth** · 07-26-2005, 11:58 PM

let her go, stock this one up for future arguments. Fight fire with fire

Fishpicker · 07-27-2005, 12:03 AM

ask your wife to explain the entire situation to you one more time. have a mic and recorder at the ready. it will come in handy for your divorce settlement.

bishop_74 · 07-27-2005, 12:06 AM

It is not appropriate for her to go without you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

She met this dude named Steve who made her poo in his mouth. I found the pictures. Dude looked just like Elvis.

Damn dude... Steve sounds pretty F'ed up in the head.

**luv** · 07-27-2005, 12:06 AM

Is he married? Is his wife going? How about the other orthodontist he employs? That would be a double standard right there. Even without considering that, I think he could have done something very nice closer to home and invited the spouses for the price he will be paying for everyone to go to NY with or without spouses. I don't think she should go. She should have consideration for you. Not because of what you have to do while she's gone. You're a dad and a business owner. You chose that, so the responsibilities are there. It's the fact that you two have been wanting to go together. If I had a husband, and I was in her shoes, I would not go. I would, however, simply ask that he give me, in cash, whatever amount it would have cost for me to go. You two could take your own vacation on that.

07-26-2005, 08:52 PM
Vegas_Dave Veteran Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Casino cash: $-1415280	ARGH! OK, I need opinions please... My wife works for an orthodontist. As with many dental practices, it is mainly a female environment. In this case, between his 2 offices, the only 2 guys who work there are himself and the other orthodontist he employs. Most of the women in this office are single and frankly, most of them are downright b*tches. So the doctor (who is LDS) always like to treat his women to something big at the end of the year. Last year, it was take them all to Celine Dion and a REALLY expensive dinner and then give them each about $1000 that they had to spend on themselves at the Forum at Ceasars. Sounds great... This year, I find out that he wants to take all of them to New York for a week, all expenses and shows paid. Wow, sounds like a nice guy... Wait for it... Spouses are not allowed. This is not a selfish why cant I go thing with me. But my wife and I have 2 very youung boys, 1 & 3 years old. I work my ass off running my family business. She and I have wanted to go to New York together for quite a while. Also, lets keep in mind that she does not get along with most of the women in her office. Not to mention that in my opinion, any big thing like that or employee party should always be spouses invited (since I am an employer myself). So is it bad of me to be opposed to her going? Am I wrong in thinking, OK, my wife goes to New York without me, somewhere we have wanted to go together, and I have to work my ass off at work, spend a total of 2 hours per day for a week trekking my 2 boys all over town for babysitting, not to mention then having to be the sole provider for them every waking moment during that time while she is having a blast, Without her husband... serious opinions needed.... I seriously could bunch the shit out of my walls right now.
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chiefs4me Whatever.. Join Date: Sep 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	I can just see the look on my hubby's face if I told him the boss was taking me to new york for a week and paying for everything...without spouses going... You build an awesome work enviroment by including the spouses and children...
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07-26-2005, 09:52 PM	#17
stevieray Most things I worry about… Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure Casino cash: $-1134727	[QUOTE=Vegas_Dave] What bothers me is that I personally would never do a week of something so stellar if the stipulation is that my wife has to stay home and take care of EVERYTHING when as a general rule, we split overall the home down the middle as far as taking care of our responsibilities as parents. QUOTE] You can do it...someday you might HAVE to. Are you a little nervous about being without her while taking care of the kids? I'd say that's pretty normal, we as men like to put abuttload of responsibility on our wives , especially when it comes to toddlers...
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07-26-2005, 09:53 PM	#18
el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $2699148	I am not a fan of separate vacations. The point of going out with someone is to go out with that person when you are able. It would also be different if she wanted to go somewhere you were not interested in going, but this is somewhere you would like to go. P.S. I would cosider the parental responsibilities and the wife's at-work relations as mostly irrelevant to the discussion.
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07-26-2005, 09:59 PM	#19
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2136023647	Hmmm? I just put my wife and kids on a plane today to go visit her mother in BARBADOS. There was no way in hell I was going to spend 8 days with her mother in BARBADOS in fricken JULY. She just called and told me it was VERY HOT........errrr no chit. I don't know what to tell you Dave. All I know is I am going to eat a lot of steaks and pull down a lot of beer in the next 8 days. Last edited by Bwana; 07-26-2005 at 10:07 PM..
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07-26-2005, 10:05 PM	#20
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07-26-2005, 10:08 PM	#21
wutamess MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lee's Summit Casino cash: $4711637	First off... The orthodontis must be single or gay. Secondly... My wife wouldn't be going ANYWHERE with a bunch of single people as I wouldn't myself. Thirdly... That has to be one of the dumbest propositions by an employer if there's one person in the group that's married (especially with kids). forthly... Wouldn't it buiild more of a bonding environment if everyone got to know each other on a person level. For instance, if he took everyone to NY and had an itenerary set up for you guys then you could join in the festivities. She's half a person without you there. Besides doesn't sound like the boss is very fond or thoughtful of your wife. Fifth and last but not least as a matter of factly... Why in the hell is this even debatable? You wife doesn't have sense to know that she shouldn't go there without you, then something's just not right. I'm thinking you have more problems than just a NY trip with the "singles group" and her boss. ~Hope it all works out.
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07-26-2005, 10:10 PM	#23
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	She met this dude named Steve who made her poo in his mouth. I found the pictures. Dude looked just like Elvis.
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07-26-2005, 10:10 PM	#24
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1788454	If it were all legit...and he wasn't looking to Lay some pipe.....Spouses would be allowed to attend...and buy their own Shows. Brideowanian would NOT be attending that trip. The Cloud of dust you see pluming, and the Shaking thud you feel is my Foot Stomping[/foot down] Hell No. If he was doing it legit, to be nice....He'd give her a cash bonus if she doesn't go. If you allow it to happen....and no way would I....huh uh...and she goes...I vote you send the kids to Grandma's for that week, and host A Boars' week in Lost Wages for The Planet's finest. I'll Re-Itterate....NO WAY, does a Strait man fund this trip, for this many single women without alterior intentions. Last edited by Iowanian; 07-26-2005 at 10:19 PM..
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07-27-2005, 12:06 AM	#30
luv You think you can get by this? Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $-1180000	Is he married? Is his wife going? How about the other orthodontist he employs? That would be a double standard right there. Even without considering that, I think he could have done something very nice closer to home and invited the spouses for the price he will be paying for everyone to go to NY with or without spouses. I don't think she should go. She should have consideration for you. Not because of what you have to do while she's gone. You're a dad and a business owner. You chose that, so the responsibilities are there. It's the fact that you two have been wanting to go together. If I had a husband, and I was in her shoes, I would not go. I would, however, simply ask that he give me, in cash, whatever amount it would have cost for me to go. You two could take your own vacation on that.
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