Roch Chalk Jayhawk : KU wins tonight and a look at this years schedule

[ROYC75]

KU over Pittsburg State 73 - 47

Alook ahead at this years schedule, it's tough for the baby Jays... probally a 19 - 12 year going into the NCAA tourney.


Nov. 21-23 Maui Invitational Maui, Hawaii
Monday Nov. 21 Arizona 8 p.m. ESPN
Tuesday Nov. 22 Arkansas/UConn 3 p.m./8:30 p.m. ESPN
Wednesday Nov. 23 TBD TBA ESPN
Thursday Dec. 1 Nevada Lawrence, 8 p.m. ESPN2
Saturday Dec. 3 Western Illinois Lawrence, 7 p.m. Jayhawk TV
Tuesday Dec. 6 St. Joseph's (Madison Square Garden) New York, N.Y., 6 p.m. ESPN
Saturday Dec. 10 California (Kemper Arena) Kansas City, Mo., 11 a.m. ESPN
Monday Dec. 19 Pepperdine Lawrence, 6:30 p.m. ESPN2
Thursday Dec. 22 Northern Colorado Lawrence, 7 p.m. Jayhawk TV
Thursday Dec. 29 New Orleans Lawrence, 6:30 p.m. ESPN2
Wednesday Jan. 4 Yale Lawrence, 7 p.m. Jayhawk TV
Saturday Jan. 7 Kentucky Lawrence, 11 a.m. ESPN
Wednesday Jan. 11 at Colorado Boulder, Colo., 8 p.m. Jayhawk TV
Saturday Jan. 14 Kansas State Lawrence, 12:45 p.m. ESPN+
Monday Jan. 16 at Missouri Columbia, Mo., 6 p.m. ESPN
Saturday Jan. 21 Nebraska Lawrence, 3 p.m. ESPN
Wednesday Jan. 25 at Texas A&M College Station, Texas, 7 p.m. Jayhawk TV
Saturday Jan. 28 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa, 11 a.m. ESPN
Monday Jan. 30 Texas Tech Lawrence, 8 p.m. ESPN2
Sunday Feb. 5 Oklahoma Lawrence, Noon CBS
Wednesday Feb. 8 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb., 6:30 p.m. Jayhawk TV
Saturday Feb. 11 Iowa State Lawrence, 3 p.m. ESPN+
Monday Feb. 13 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla., 8 p.m. ESPN
Saturday Feb. 18 Missouri Lawrence, 2:45 p.m. CBS
Tuesday Feb. 21 Baylor Lawrence, 7 p.m. Jayhawk TV
Saturday Feb. 25 at Texas Austin, Texas, 8 p.m. ESPN
Wednesday Mar. 1 Colorado Lawrence, 8 p.m. Jayhawk TV
Saturday Mar. 4 at Kansas State Manhattan, 3 p.m. ESPN+
Thurs-Sun. March 9-12 Big 12 Conference Tournament Dallas, Texas, TBA ESPN+/ESPN

[ArrowheadHawk]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Uh, Isn't Idaho State our final exhibition game ?

that is a regular season game

[Dunit35]

It is going to be tough for them this year, but there is so much talant on this team. I could see them having a 20 win season again. It just depends on how fast this team gels. Im going to say this. In the preseason games. I rate them like this. I only got to watch tonights game. Heard about the first.

Hawkins: B- (dont remember much about him)
Robinson: A (looks a lot bigger, good unselfish player)
Chalmers: A (hes gonna be a leader on this team, good overall player)
Downs: C+ (good passer, very good passer)
Kaun: C+ (free throws suck, acts goofy, but big body)
Rush: B+ ( a playmaker, gonna be a stud)
Wright: B- (didnt see much, looks like he can pass and shoot)
Jackson: B- (didnt look to bad at all tonight)
Giles: A (he should be a great player)
Moody: B ( he gets a B, because he gets the job done)

Overall: B

[Spicy McHaggis]

Originally Posted by Dunit35

It is going to be tough for them this year, but there is so much talant on this team. I could see them having a 20 win season again. It just depends on how fast this team gels. Im going to say this. In the preseason games. I rate them like this. I only got to watch tonights game. Heard about the first.

Hawkins: B- (dont remember much about him)
Robinson: A (looks a lot bigger, good unselfish player)
Chalmers: A (hes gonna be a leader on this team, good overall player)
Downs: C+ (good passer, very good passer)
Kaun: C+ (free throws suck, acts goofy, but big body)
Rush: B+ ( a playmaker, gonna be a stud)
Wright: B- (didnt see much, looks like he can pass and shoot)
Jackson: B- (didnt look to bad at all tonight)
Giles: A (he should be a great player)
Moody: B ( he gets a B, because he gets the job done)

Overall: B

Hawkins has grown up a lot and I'd put him higher than a B-. That said its still way to early to put any sort of grade on the frosh and even some of the sophomores.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis

Hawkins has grown up a lot and I'd put him higher than a B-. That said its still way to early to put any sort of grade on the frosh and even some of the sophomores.

Yea I know, its way to early to grade anyone now. Giles looked real good today, but it was a MIAA school. I guess we will see on Friday. I did notice how much bigger Robinson looked today. It looks like he is ready to be a leader on this team.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Who changed the title to Roch Chalk ?

No one it was your typo, it has been that way since the thread first appeared.

[royr17]

Anybody know what the starting lineup for the Jayhawks is yet ?

[cmh6476]

here's what I posted at a fantasy site, to people who probably wouldn't have a clue:

Yeah, they beat up on Pitt State last night, but the talent on the floor is just amazing. Here's who I think we should have starting:


G Jeff Hawkins (5'11", 180)/ Russell Robinson (6'1", 196) - the one position I still think that's up in the air IMO. Hawkins will probably start at the beginning of the season, as he's a senior and a little more experienced. I think as the season progresses, Robinson will take over. Robinson's a little better defensively, where Hawkins is probably a better 3 point shooter. Both of these guys are going to see a lot of playing time.

G Brandon Rush (6'6", 202) - This guy is going to be solid, and he will likely start from the get-go. Would not surprise me to see him end up Big 12 frosh of the year. He musta learned a thing or two from brothers Kareem and Jaron. And at 6-6, 202 he's big for a guard. He probably would have been McDonald's All American, had prep school athletes been eligible.

F Julian Wright (6'8", 218) - One of the 3 Mickey D's All Americans in this frosh class. He's also going to be a star in this league. Not sure if he'll be starting when the season kicks off Friday, but I have a feeling he will work his way into the position.

F Christian Moody (6'8", 220) - A senior that has earned the starting position. Was key last year providing valuable minutes. His play has gotten better each year.

C C.J. Giles (6'10", 245) - Probably the most talented athlete on the court for the Hawks. He had an amazing game last night, and I think you're going to see how talented this kid really is now that all the superstars for the Jayhawks have graduated.

Key players off the bench (or could be starting):

Guards:
Micah Downs - McD's AA frosh, kinda reminds me of a Dunleavy type
Mario Chalmers - McD's AA, game looked a little rusty last night
Rodrick Stewart - a transfer from USC I believe, eligible at semester

Big Guys:
Sasha Kaun - talented athlete that hasn't been playing long, but will contribute this year, if not start
Darnell Jackson - big force underneath who will add valuable minutes and contribute


It amazes me how much talent this team is loaded with. They will more than likely have their ups and downs this year, but this team is going to be a lot better than most people are giving them credit for.

And, they'll probably beat Missouri twice once again

fair assessment?

[royr17]

And so you know Giles is 245 right now, i really hope he gets up to 260 though.

[Eleazar]

Who's the gopher on this team?

[Lzen]

Damn, I didn't even realize they were playing last night.

cmh6476, that is a good take.

[royr17]

Actually, I would much refer this lineup:

PG Chalmers
SG Robinson
SF Wright
PF Giles
C Kaun

[cmh6476]

After seeing Rush in person, I don't see how you could keep him out of the starting lineup. Chalmers didn't play that well last night, but I'm sure he'll get better.

But I could see getting Kaun in there and bringing Moody off the bench

If I had to guess, I would guess this to be Self's starting lineup friday:

Hawkins
Rush
Moody
Kaun
Giles

[schneider221]

Originally Posted by cmh6476

here's what I posted at a fantasy site, to people who probably wouldn't have a clue:




fair assessment?

i think its pretty fair to say Robinson is going to start. he played more minutes then anyone else in the 2 preseason games. also the coaches have done nothin just praise his for how good he has played.

my lineup looks like this

Hawkins/Chalmers - PG - I honestly dont care either way, both have shot the ball decent from 3 in the 2 games and both have played decent defense, and are known for playing great defense. Chalmers is a better passes but Hawkins is the senior. who knows what self will do.

Russ Rob - SG - More minutes then anyone else in preseason, starts both games, gotten praise all preseason from coaches. He may not be the scoring option you like at the 2 guard spot but he can pass really well, drive the lane well, and is an average shooter. if he plays under control and avoids the turnovers he can be special. above average defender here as well.

B Rush - SF - Not real sure what to say. The man is going to be good. he has been really unselfish so far and scored within the offense. reminds me of a young paul pierce and i think he will be a stud. he is just to talented to leave off teh court for to long.

CJ Giles - C/PF - he has the green light to shoot from 15 feet, and has shown a good shot. can block shots with the best of them, and has all the tools to be a star and make it to the next level. only thing hampering him from playing almost all game is foul trouble. he makes silly fouls and if he can cut it out he could be a real star

Kaun/Wright/Moody/Jackson - I think our best lineup would include Kaun starting with CJ. thats alot of beef, alot of blocked shots, and hopefully alot of boards. only problem is they both foul to much so your dont want to start both incase they both get in foul trouble. you want to have both available for crunch time. self might go ahead and start one or the other until they both show they will stop making the stupid fouls. wright will get playing time here and as talented as he is, i think he struggles alot on defense against bigger number 4's. Jackson played well last night and if he plays like that he will be the nxt Jeff Graves, grabbing rebounds like crazy and getting some put backs. It is time for moody to go back to the bench Self has said he wants a 9 man lineup and i just dont think moody fits in. last year he just need to do the basics and no screw up because wayne carried the low post on his back. this year we need points from both spots, we need someone more athletic.

self will have a hard time bringing it down to 9 guys and i think rodrick stewart will be given time when he becomes eligible. self might have to go with 10 but we will see

Hawkins/Chalmers
russel/ Stewart
rush/downs
giles/wright
kaun/ jackson

[cmh6476]

once stewart becomes eligible, i see 11 guys getting PT...

[Lzen]

Here's something interesting about Jackson:

Sophomore forward Darnell Jackson played after missing the first exhibition because of a non-academic "eligibility issue." Self won't say exactly what the issue is.

Late Monday afternoon, the NCAA gave Jackson the OK to play against Pitt State but the issue has not been finalized.

Self won't specify what the problem is and final resolution hasn't been reached. For now, Jackson was only cleared by the NCAA to play Monday.

"We hope to put closure to it in the next 48 hours," Self said. "We were told he could play (Monday), which is a good sign. But we still have to get word on the final verdict.

"We are hopeful that everything is OK, but we're prepared if it's not. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it."
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