QB Situation - Offseason Moves

[Bob Dole]

Sparked by other conversations, Bob Dole was discussing KC's QB situation with another KC fan at the bar last evening when we arrived at a point of disagreement.

Most of the people here want Elvis to renegotiate his contract and return next season. Most of us also agree that Warren isn't the backup we perhaps thought he was prior to the San Diego game. Bob Dole assumes Collins in a big [b]?[/b] since there's never really much discussion about him.

The point of disagreement was whether we should find a QB with a "style" similar to Elvis', or find a QB that "compliments" Elvis.

Bob Dole's position was that we should acquire a 2nd QB with a similar style of play (i.e. primarily a pocket passer as opposed to a scrambler). The primary reason for this position is that differing style would require significant adjustments to play calling, blocking schemes, etc., where a QB with similar style could be more "plug and play."

[Bob Dole]

Coleman finished second behind a [i]junior[/i] QB in the Harlon Hill Trophy voting.

Here's <a href="http://www.d2football.com/Harlon_Hill_Watch/justin_coleman.html">Coleman's Stats and Info</a> for anyone who wants it.

[HC_Chief]

If Tuiasosopa is available when we pick in the 2nd round, it would be [i]idiototic[/i] to pass him up!

I like Bob Dole's position, find a backup with similar style. I think shortly after Jan 1, the Chiefs will complete the hat trick, of resigning, Carl, Gunther and Elvis, and while I am ambivalent about the first, it is done, the second, I definitely am against, and the third is an absolute must. Now in answer to the question, I wouldn't mind the Chiefs signing Moreno of San Diego, playing behind a good OL, would be benieficial and remember he kept the Bolts in a lot of early season games. However, I believe Collins is signed for another year, so I think we will keep him and go for the draft at #3. I doubt if any of the big names would be available in the second round, so someone obscure like Sage and the other guy would possibly fit the Chiefs. Besides, if Carl signs EG to a 5 to 7 year contract, I don't even think he will use anything above a 4th or 5th rounder on a QB of the distant future.

[58Forever]

Bob Dole is thinking way too much...

Jeff Garcia and Elvis...can you have two starters?

Collins will be #2 and then I'd go get #3 and potential QBOTF in the draft...

But I would have to agree with Mr. Dole, whatever we decide, our backup QB should have a similiar style EG...it would make things easier for the offense...however, on the other hand...with a different style, a runner, it would make things infinitely harder on the opposing teams defense...I'm going to do a Clinton here and say I'm undecided....

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joe

"The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."
-Joe Theisman, NFL football quarterback and sports analyst

I watched Rosefels at Iowa State several games over the last couple of years...HE will be a decent QB...He makes good decisions and does have the abuility to scramble...you haven't heard much because ISU hasn't been worth a hoot for quite some time until this year...I think he could be a steal as a backup if he falls to 2nd rnd.

[Bob Dole]

Bob Dole apologizes, Joe. Bob Dole just got to wondering what shape we'll be in if we re-sign Elvis next season, he continues the scrambling we saw last Sunday, and gets knocked out game 3.

Bob Dole does [b]not[/b] want to see any repeats of the San Diego game...

[58Forever]

Bob, I was impressed with Grbac's sudden desire to become a scrambler...I, however, agree with Bob that if Elvis decides to keep scrambling...the only thing that will get scrambled is his brains...you are right...we would need a capable backup...another thing that would happen if Elvis gets hurt, he probably won't win a playoff game....

[NaptownChief]

I am somewhat on HC's bandwagon for Tuiasosopo...I think he fit in the fellow Washington Huskie mold of Mark Brunell. I think he will definitely be available in the 2nd round and most likely in the 3rd...I would love to take him in the 3rd...I have penned a LB/DT in the 1st round and a CB in the 2nd. So I would prefer grabbing a Tuiasosopo in the 3rd.

[Bob Dole]

jl80: You think Caver (AR) will still be hanging around when we pick?

[NaptownChief]

I think he should difinitely be there in the 1st round unless he turns out to be faster at the combine than everyone currently thinks...Outside shot he will be there for us in the 2nd round...Stevenson's just updated their mock draft and have him going 3 picks ahead of us in the 2nd round. They list him at 6'5" 230 with 4.7 speed. If he turns out to have 4.6 speed or better he will go top 20 considering his size.

[Bob Dole]

Kiper has Caver listed as the top OLB in the draft. Bob Dole hasn't looked at any of the advance mock drafts to see if there is anyone else OLB shopping ahead of us.

Okay...went and found one mock draft and they have nobody selecting an OLB ahead of us. (They show us taking DT Marcus Stroud.)

[This message has been edited by Robert_Dole (edited 12-19-2000).]

[Cannibal]

I know Grbac is going to be here for a while.

But once... just once, I'd like to see them bring in a QB that has some real athletic ability ala Culpepper, McNabb.

You don't have to be white and slow to play QB anymore.

[NaptownChief]

9ers, Jags and Rams will be in the market for OLB's...Dan Morgan, Tom Polley, Caver and Torrence Marshall of Oaklahoma looked to be the top 4 OLB's. They could go in any order in the top 40 picks but I think Dan Morgan is the best of the bunch.

Bob Dole, NFLTalk Mock Draft has Morgan going to the Bucs at #21. No other LBs taken before him, so we should have him if we want him. By the way, they have us taking Maurice Stroud, DT, Georgia. Living here in SEC country, the Vols had plenty of trouble with him and Seymour the past two years. However, I read somewhere, his work ethic is questionable, and with Glock and Williams, especially Williams, to teach him how to underachieve, I do not want him.

[Bob Dole]

Bob Dole wouldn't mind seeing the athletic ability, but doesn't think a quick-to-cut-and-run QB works in our "system" without major changes, and wonder if those changes could be made week-to-week in an injury replacement situation.

Our young QB development has been horrid, as well. Maybe we should cut Moon and Collins and draft 2 younguns and just expect to suffer if they're forced to play. That would at least force us to play a young guy.