Rock & Roll Hall of Fame - Snubbed Again - Page 2

kc rush · 10-31-2006, 04:12 PM

I know I'm biased, but give me a break. Rush snubbed again.

Rock Hall of Fame names nominees for `07

Van Halen is trying to make their biggest "jump" yet — into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, with potential 2007 classmates such as R.E.M., Chic, and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.

All are among the nine nominees for enshrinement in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in Cleveland. A panel of 500 industry experts will select five to be inducted at the annual ceremony, to be held March 12 in New York City.

To be eligible, artists must have issued a first single or album at least 25 years prior to nomination.

Van Halen and R.E.M. came from opposite sides of the 1980s rock 'n' roll spectrum. Led by cartoonish frontman David Lee Roth and fleet-fingered guitarist Eddie Van Halen, the California quartet was a hard rock favorite with songs like "Jump" and "Hot for Teacher." R.E.M., meanwhile, was the quintessential indie rock band until breaking through to mass success in the early 1990s.

Grandmaster Flash led the most innovative act in early hip-hop, and the song "The Message" was like a letter from urban America.

Chic, a funk group led by Bernard Edwards and Nile Rodgers, were one of the few acts to dominate the disco era and emerge with their reputation intact through songs such as the wedding band favorite "Good Times."

Other nominees include Patti Smith, the punk rock poet who recently presided over the closing of New York's legendary CBGB nightclub; British invader the Dave Clark Five; Phil Spector favorites the Ronettes; soul singer Joe Tex; and the

, early home of Iggy Pop.

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kc rush · 11-01-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Rush won't get in because Geddy is Jewish.

Gene Simmons is Jewish too

Dark Horse · 11-01-2006, 08:54 AM

I wouldn't put much stock in it, kind of like the AMA. Music is too subjective a topic for some clown to tell me whats good.

Halfcan · 11-01-2006, 02:39 PM

I think they have a lot of resentment from the Industry in the whole, because they did it all on their own. Rush owns their own label and the Masters of everyone of their songs. They have never cared about the Press-and were inventing Prog Rock when lame-ass bands like Chic where getting force feed down the Publics throat in the Disco Fever days.

Braincase · 11-01-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kc rush

Gene Simmons is Jewish too

So is Paul Stanley. They're like the William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy of Hard Rock.

Brock · 11-01-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Rush won't get in because Geddy is Jewish.

Either that or because he can't sing.

Halfcan · 11-01-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Either that or because he can't sing.

He is no David Lee Roth that is for sure-maybe they will put Daves Spandex crotchless tights in a glass case to preserve forever.

Brock · 11-01-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

He is no David Lee Roth that is for sure-maybe they will put Daves Spandex crotchless tights in a glass case to preserve forever.

Yeah. But at least Dave didn't turn into a potted plant on stage.

siberian khatru · 11-01-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

and were inventing Prog Rock

Uh, no.

The roots of progressive rock date back to the late 1960s. It blossomed with Yes, Genesis, ELP, etc. in the early to mid-1970s. In fact, Neil Peart was influenced by Mike Giles, the original drummer for King Crimson, whose 1969 debut album "In the Court of the Crimson King" is widely credited as starting the prog-rock movement (you could also make an argument for the Moody Blues' "Days of Future Passed" and even some Beatles stuff).

I like Rush. I'm a fan. But don't oversell them. They don't need to be oversold.

JBucc · 11-01-2006, 04:03 PM

Who cares. The Rock and Roll HOF is stupid.

Halfcan · 11-01-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Uh, no.

The roots of progressive rock date back to the late 1960s. It blossomed with Yes, Genesis, ELP, etc. in the early to mid-1970s. In fact, Neil Peart was influenced by Mike Giles, the original drummer for King Crimson, whose 1969 debut album "In the Court of the Crimson King" is widely credited as starting the prog-rock movement (you could also make an argument for the Moody Blues' "Days of Future Passed" and even some Beatles stuff).

I like Rush. I'm a fan. But don't oversell them. They don't need to be oversold.

2112-enough said.

kc rush · 11-01-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Uh, no.

The roots of progressive rock date back to the late 1960s. It blossomed with Yes, Genesis, ELP, etc. in the early to mid-1970s. In fact, Neil Peart was influenced by Mike Giles, the original drummer for King Crimson, whose 1969 debut album "In the Court of the Crimson King" is widely credited as starting the prog-rock movement (you could also make an argument for the Moody Blues' "Days of Future Passed" and even some Beatles stuff).

I like Rush. I'm a fan. But don't oversell them. They don't need to be oversold.

Rush was the first or one of the first to fuse progressive music with hard rock/metal. They were admittedly influenced by Yes, Genesis, and other prog bands.

siberian khatru · 11-01-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

2112-enough said.

Which came out 2 years after "Tales From Topographic Oceans" and "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway."

Like I said, you don't need to oversell the band. But you don't do yourself or Rush any favors by pimping them as somehow carrying the Prog tablets down from Mount Rock.

siberian khatru · 11-01-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kc rush

Rush was the first or one of the first to fuse progressive music with hard rock/metal. They were admittedly influenced by Yes, Genesis, and other prog bands.

I'm more sympathetic to the Prog Metal argument. Groups like Dream Theater were influenced by Rush. But I also think you see adventurous hard rock from the likes of Led Zep and The Who prior to Rush.

listopencil · 11-01-2006, 05:10 PM

At this point I think Rush fans are just going to have to accept the fact that Rush just isn't that good.

**Reaper16** · 11-01-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Uh, no.

The roots of progressive rock date back to the late 1960s. It blossomed with Yes, Genesis, ELP, etc. in the early to mid-1970s. In fact, Neil Peart was influenced by Mike Giles, the original drummer for King Crimson, whose 1969 debut album "In the Court of the Crimson King" is widely credited as starting the prog-rock movement (you could also make an argument for the Moody Blues' "Days of Future Passed" and even some Beatles stuff).

I like Rush. I'm a fan. But don't oversell them. They don't need to be oversold.

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