It was a team loss - Page 2

Chiefnj · 09:19 AM

I watched the game again last night in about a half-hour fast forwarding through a lot. Some observations:

1. Whoever the next QB is, the guy has to have some ability to audible. There were times when there were 9 defenders in the box clearly playing run and the Chiefs ran it anyway right into the middle of the 9 guys. I don't care if Indy had the worst run D in the league, that just isn't going to work. Green, Huard, Croyle, Testaverde, whoever it is, has to have the ability to call a pass with the one-on-one matchup on the outside.

2. The OL didn't show up at all. Even without the extra Indy defenders playing he line, the OL was beaten at the point of attack by the undersized Indy line and was never able to get a push.

3. Waters had a horrible day. He was as bad as Black. In addition to poor run and pass blocking, he stepped on Green's foot and was responsible for a critical false start on 3rd and short that put the Chiefs back to a known passing situation where Green got hit and threw a pick.

4. The D played inspired ball but once again failed to come up big when the team needed them to. After the offense finally scored and made it 8-16 they needed to make a stop on the next drive. Instead, they let Manning drive 71 yards for a TD.

5. The dropped passes were inexcusable. What people overlook is that on many of the dropped 3rd down passes, the receivers were running patterns SHORT of the first down marker. Even if they made the catch they likely wouldn't have converted. (Unfortunately that is a Herm run offense trademark).

**Rain Man** · 01-10-2007, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Missed FGs in four straight playoff games. By four different kickers.

Has to be a record.

And not only that, but the streak is still alive. I fear that we're Cal Ripken at 1,200 games.

Fish · 01-10-2007, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

They were on the field a lot and did a great job in the first half. No doubt. But, you've got to play an entire 4 quarters of football. In the 2nd half the Colts kicked their buts. Were they tired? Sure. Should they have stepped it up for all 4 quarters in the playoffs? Yes.

My point was... IMO the D did more than enough to keep us in the game. If our offense would have shown up at all.... and had one or two good long drives, then the defensive performance would have looked stellar.

**Dartgod** · 01-10-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

They were on the field a lot and did a great job in the first half. No doubt. But, you've got to play an entire 4 quarters of football. In the 2nd half the Colts kicked their buts. Were they tired? Sure. Should they have stepped it up for all 4 quarters in the playoffs? Yes.

No defense is going to be effective in the 4th quarter after they have been on the field for 3/4ths of the first three.

Chiefnj · 01-10-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

No defense is going to be effective in the 4th quarter after they have been on the field for 3/4ths of the first three.

With Herm's offense and his desire to simplify even more, they are going to have to learn how to play that way.

GoHuge · 01-10-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

I'd disagree with #4

We held the smirking man-bitch to just 3 FGs (including a 48 and 50 yd FG) in the first half... sacked him once (only the 9th sack at home all season), and got 3 INTs... one of which Law delivered to the O on the 10yd line.

And considering the amount of time the O made the D stay on the field... I don't think you can fault this D too much.

I agree. What else do you want out of them? They kept Indy out of the endzone, got 3 turnovers, and never really gave up even when they saw all their efforts being wasted by the offense. Maybe this was the O geting back at them for all the years the D blew it. It had to be planned, they couldn't really be that horrible. The O was historically bad.

KCTitus · 01-10-2007, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GoHuge39

I agree. What else do you want out of them?

Uhh, well for one...when Law got that INT, he should have scored, duh!

C-Mac · 01-10-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Oh yeah....If I hear Herm making excuses again with the "we only had 18 plays" crap, I'm probably going to throw an object at the speaker.

Herm, maybe, just maybe, the reason you had only 18 offensive plays in the first half, and couldn't get a first down, was because the game plan was bad. If 90% of Chief fans can predict your first down offensive play, I'm guessing Indy's D Coord will have a pretty good idea.

Bingo

"we only had 18 predictabe plays"

C-Mac · 01-10-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Missed FGs in four straight playoff games. By four different kickers.

Has to be a record.

No way, is this true?

milkman · 01-10-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Uhh, well for one...when Law got that INT, he should have scored, duh!

Yeah, cut his useless ass!!

FAX · 01-10-2007, 10:30 AM

I can't tell if Herm is ...

A) An idiot
B) In complete denial
C) A pathological liar
D) Doesn't care what anybody thinks

But, something is wrong with a guy who insists repeatedly that the sky really is orangish green.

FAX

milkman · 01-10-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I can't tell if Herm is ...

A) An idiot
B) In complete denial
C) A pathological liar
D) Doesn't care what anybody thinks

But, something is wrong with a guy who insists repeatedly that the sky really is orangish green.

FAX

E.

FAX · 01-10-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

E.

Decoder ring lost. Unable to decipher post.

FAX

milkman · 01-10-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Decoder ring lost. Unable to decipher post.

FAX

E)All of the above.

Redrum_69 · 01-10-2007, 10:41 AM

You armchair coaches have no freakin idea what its like to be a player WHOSE WHOLE LIFE IS ON A PEDESTAL and everything they do on the field and off is either immortalized in the national headlines or their reputation is torn to shreds.

FAX · 01-10-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

E)All of the above.

You're probably right, Mr. milkman.

I'm very serious about his ability to repeatedly lie in public. He has a big problem with that. It's not good. It's highly likely that he has been invaded with some kind of confused, dark and embittered soul packet and will never make it back to the mother ship.

FAX

01-10-2007, 09:03 AM
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	It was a team loss I watched the game again last night in about a half-hour fast forwarding through a lot. Some observations: 1. Whoever the next QB is, the guy has to have some ability to audible. There were times when there were 9 defenders in the box clearly playing run and the Chiefs ran it anyway right into the middle of the 9 guys. I don't care if Indy had the worst run D in the league, that just isn't going to work. Green, Huard, Croyle, Testaverde, whoever it is, has to have the ability to call a pass with the one-on-one matchup on the outside. 2. The OL didn't show up at all. Even without the extra Indy defenders playing he line, the OL was beaten at the point of attack by the undersized Indy line and was never able to get a push. 3. Waters had a horrible day. He was as bad as Black. In addition to poor run and pass blocking, he stepped on Green's foot and was responsible for a critical false start on 3rd and short that put the Chiefs back to a known passing situation where Green got hit and threw a pick. 4. The D played inspired ball but once again failed to come up big when the team needed them to. After the offense finally scored and made it 8-16 they needed to make a stop on the next drive. Instead, they let Manning drive 71 yards for a TD. 5. The dropped passes were inexcusable. What people overlook is that on many of the dropped 3rd down passes, the receivers were running patterns SHORT of the first down marker. Even if they made the catch they likely wouldn't have converted. (Unfortunately that is a Herm run offense trademark). Last edited by Chiefnj; 01-10-2007 at 09:19 AM..
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01-10-2007, 10:30 AM	#25
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	I can't tell if Herm is ... A) An idiot B) In complete denial C) A pathological liar D) Doesn't care what anybody thinks But, something is wrong with a guy who insists repeatedly that the sky really is orangish green. FAX
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01-10-2007, 10:41 AM	#29
Redrum_69 Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: your nightmares Casino cash: $10004900	You armchair coaches have no freakin idea what its like to be a player WHOSE WHOLE LIFE IS ON A PEDESTAL and everything they do on the field and off is either immortalized in the national headlines or their reputation is torn to shreds.
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