Does this bother you too? - caution racial material – - Page 2

MIAdragon · 03-31-2007, 08:11 PM

I’m probably going to catch heat for this but…..

Let me caveat this by stating that by no means am I raciest in the slightest bit. Watching the Cards Indians game all you hear is how its just a travesty there are not more blacks in baseball and how we have to correct this obvious “problem”. Its not just this game its all over ESPN and the media. Why is this such a problem, is there something I’m missing? Have you ever heard we need more whites on basketball or the NFL? I haven’t and I’m guessing because that would be raciest. I know it shouldn’t but its starting to bother me.

Ultra Peanut · 03-31-2007, 08:31 PM

I'M NOT A RACIST BUT

crazycoffey · 03-31-2007, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

does it stem from the need to "right the wrong"? I dont get it.

yes, that is where it started, I think. Affirmitive action, was needed because qualified individuals were overlooked in all work places, sports too, because of their race or sexual orientation.

No doubt it was needed to right the wrong, even though I don't like it, it was probably very useful to get things going the right way. But just as it was probably needed then, it shouldn't be needed forever, we need to level it out.

JBucc · 03-31-2007, 08:33 PM

Doesn't baseball start tomorrow? I've been playing MVP 05 (with 07 mod) nonstop for the past week.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-31-2007, 08:42 PM

This has to do with the lack of baseball parks in most inner-cities. Basketball rules the inner-city and football isn't too far behind. If MLB can invest in baseball academies in places like the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and South America, they could invest in the inner-cities of America. But they don't.

MIAdragon · 03-31-2007, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This has to do with the lack of baseball parks in most inner-cities. Basketball rules the inner-city and football isn't too far behind. If MLB can invest in baseball academies in places like the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and South America, they could invest in the inner-cities of America. But they don't.

actually they do, take a ride do to Compton they have one there and in several other cities. Again does the NBA have academies in Montana to encourage Whites to play. Im all about equality but be fair across the board

keg in kc · 03-31-2007, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This has to do with the lack of baseball parks in most inner-cities. Basketball rules the inner-city and football isn't too far behind. If MLB can invest in baseball academies in places like the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and South America, they could invest in the inner-cities of America. But they don't.

Yeah, the Royals are involved with the RBI program, Returning Baseball to the Innercity, through the Boys and Girls Club of Greater KC. Ryan Lefebre (Royals play-by-play guy) has been involved over the years with it, as well, with his Gloves for Kids program.

I don't see how anything but good can come of it...

Silock · 03-31-2007, 08:54 PM

Why aren't they complaining about the lack of latinos? There are more latinos in this country than black people.

listopencil · 03-31-2007, 08:54 PM

Just let baseball die...

listopencil · 03-31-2007, 08:57 PM

BTW, I'm offended that you felt the need to put "- caution racial material -" in the thread title.

Damn titlist. That's what's wrong with America today.

|Zach| · 03-31-2007, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock

Why aren't they complaining about the lack of latinos? There are more latinos in this country than black people.

I imagine because there in fact isn't a lack of latinos in baseball.

keg in kc · 03-31-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

actually they do, take a ride do to Compton they have one there and in several other cities. Again does the NBA have academies in Montana to encourage Whites to play. Im all about equality but be fair across the board

No offense, but you're not making any sense. There are little leagues, babe ruth programs, american legion baseball, minor league teams (which host clinics and tryouts) all over the US. I grew up playing baseball in backwoods West Virginia, of all places. Ass end of nowhere, and we had youth soccer, basketball, football, you name it. There's no shortage of athletic opportunities for most of us who grow up outside of the inner city, regardless of our ethnic background.

The point of the RBI program is not so much to train kids to be professional ballplayers, it's to provide kids with role models and alternatives to the kind of life and lifestyle that they grow up around, through no fault of their own.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-31-2007, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Yeah, the Royals are involved with the RBI program, Returning Baseball to the Innercity, through the Boys and Girls Club of Greater KC. Ryan Lefebre (Royals play-by-play guy) has been involved over the years with it, as well, with his Gloves for Kids program.

I don't see how anything but good can come of it...

The program you linked isn't actually sponsored by the MLB or a Major League Club but I'm sure it's a good program.

A quick web search reveals that just this month, MLB is building academies in Atlanta & D.C. So it's very recent and something I wasn't aware of until now. Hopefully, it'll make a difference.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-31-2007, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

take a ride do to Compton they have one there...

No offense, but I'd prefer not to...

keg in kc · 03-31-2007, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The program you linked isn't actually sponsored by the MLB or a Major League Club but I'm sure it's a good program.

Never said it was. I was just mentioning that the Royals were involved with it. They have been for years.

Quote:

A quick web search reveals that just this month, MLB is building academies in Atlanta & D.C. So it's very recent and something I wasn't aware of until now. Hopefully, it'll make a difference.

Hopefully it will.

It's ironic that on a board where we regularly have people who'll bemoan the 'hip hop lifestyle' and complain about how black people talk, that there's someone classifying an effort like this, something to elicit positive change, something that may, in fact, serve as an alternative to the perpetuation of that lifestyle, racist.

listopencil · 03-31-2007, 09:09 PM

So...how many "black" people are in baseball? Does anyone know? What kind of percentage are we talking about here?

03-31-2007, 08:11 PM
MIAdragon Someone pass the antifreeze Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Miami (North Cuba) Casino cash: $1047819	Does this bother you too? - caution racial material – I’m probably going to catch heat for this but….. Let me caveat this by stating that by no means am I raciest in the slightest bit. Watching the Cards Indians game all you hear is how its just a travesty there are not more blacks in baseball and how we have to correct this obvious “problem”. Its not just this game its all over ESPN and the media. Why is this such a problem, is there something I’m missing? Have you ever heard we need more whites on basketball or the NFL? I haven’t and I’m guessing because that would be raciest. I know it shouldn’t but its starting to bother me.
Posts: 15,778

03-31-2007, 08:31 PM	#16
Ultra Peanut v^V^v^V^v^V^ Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Holland* Casino cash: $10005177	I'M NOT A RACIST BUT __________________
Posts: 39,518

03-31-2007, 08:33 PM	#18
JBucc MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Casino cash: $10004952	Doesn't baseball start tomorrow? I've been playing MVP 05 (with 07 mod) nonstop for the past week.
Posts: 12,016

03-31-2007, 08:42 PM	#19
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	This has to do with the lack of baseball parks in most inner-cities. Basketball rules the inner-city and football isn't too far behind. If MLB can invest in baseball academies in places like the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and South America, they could invest in the inner-cities of America. But they don't.
Posts: 88,960

03-31-2007, 08:54 PM	#22
Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10020882	Why aren't they complaining about the lack of latinos? There are more latinos in this country than black people.
Posts: 19,908

03-31-2007, 08:54 PM	#23
listopencil Immanentize The Eschaton Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In Partibus Infidelium Casino cash: $1675880	Just let baseball die... __________________ Good friends we have had, oh, good friends we've lost...along the way. In this great future, you can't forget your past. So dry your tears, I say.
Posts: 56,065

03-31-2007, 08:57 PM	#24
listopencil Immanentize The Eschaton Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In Partibus Infidelium Casino cash: $1675880	BTW, I'm offended that you felt the need to put "- caution racial material -" in the thread title. Damn titlist. That's what's wrong with America today. __________________ Good friends we have had, oh, good friends we've lost...along the way. In this great future, you can't forget your past. So dry your tears, I say.
Posts: 56,065

03-31-2007, 09:09 PM	#30
listopencil Immanentize The Eschaton Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In Partibus Infidelium Casino cash: $1675880	So...how many "black" people are in baseball? Does anyone know? What kind of percentage are we talking about here? __________________ Good friends we have had, oh, good friends we've lost...along the way. In this great future, you can't forget your past. So dry your tears, I say.
Posts: 56,065