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Old 08-27-2007, 10:19 AM  
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Too be honest, we shoulda stuck with Huard last year
Ok this is a shoulda thread. I know it's pointless, but, imo, Im not upset that we decided to go with Huard this year because he is the best man for the job at this point. And quite frankly, the Chiefs really didn't have any other choice.

but I really think he was the guy we shoulda stuck with last year too. Had we kept him in, I think we possibly coulda won 2 more games.

Not saying Trent was bad, but Huard had the hot hand last year. A mistake the coaching staff made was taking out the guy who was playing well.

Had he played a whole season, would really really know what we have now. And think about it, he'd probably be a lot further ahead this year.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:49 PM   #16
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How does one go about becoming "not raw"?
Well, practice and exp. of course. However, depending on the player (can anyone say Junior Siavvi?) one may never get passed being "raw". This is my prediction for Croyle. I don't believe that he actually has the tools to become a good QB, yeah he has an arm, but the arm is secondary at that position, you need to be a quick thinker and have the ability to make good judgement calls, which have been shown over and over and over again that he just wont break that bad habbit of trying to force the pass.

If I am wrong, I will happily eat my crow, but I have been saying from the very beggining that Huard is a career backup for a reason and that Croyle is not the answer to the QBotF question.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:51 PM   #17
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Well, practice and exp. of course. However, depending on the player (can anyone say Junior Siavvi?) one may never get passed being "raw". This is my prediction for Croyle. I don't believe that he actually has the tools to become a good QB, yeah he has an arm, but the arm is secondary at that position, you need to be a quick thinker and have the ability to make good judgement calls, which have been shown over and over and over again that he just wont break that bad habbit of trying to force the pass.

If I am wrong, I will happily eat my crow, but I have been saying from the very beggining that Huard is a career backup for a reason and that Croyle is not the answer to the QBotF question.
You could very well be right about Croyle. If you are, wouldn't it make sense to know NOW vs. later?

Furthermore, if we already KNOW Huard is a career backup for a reason, what is the harm in playing Croyle? At the very worst, he tanks and we PROVE DEFINITIVELY that you're correct in your assessment. At best, he proves you wrong.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:51 PM   #18
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:56 PM   #19
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I will say that if the coaches thought Croyle was the next Peyton Manning, then he'd be starting; regardless of how he's looked in the preseason.

My guess is they don't see a whole lot right now (in two years of practice and some preseason games). Either that, or we don't have good offensive analysis on our coaching staff.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:12 PM   #20
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You could very well be right about Croyle. If you are, wouldn't it make sense to know NOW vs. later?

Furthermore, if we already KNOW Huard is a career backup for a reason, what is the harm in playing Croyle? At the very worst, he tanks and we PROVE DEFINITIVELY that you're correct in your assessment. At best, he proves you wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that its a good thing that Huard is starting, I have been against making him the starter since day one. And I agree, Herm should give the nod to Croyle, pretty much trial by fire you know. But its just a guess that he pans out like Joey Harrington.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:13 PM   #21
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Grossman played in the Super Bowl last year.
And Huard is a much better QB from what I've seen...
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:17 PM   #22
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Huard is surely no more than a backup.

What loser couldn't beat Tom Brady or Dan Marino out of a job.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:23 PM   #23
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Huard is surely no more than a backup.

What loser couldn't beat Tom Brady or Dan Marino out of a job.
If only Damon could have played in a league with more than 2 teams...
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:24 PM   #24
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And Huard is a much better QB from what I've seen...
If you're talking about Huard making fewer mistakes, then sure. But the Bears wouldn't have gotten to the Super Bowl without the long ball. Huard doesn't have that.
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Huard is surely no more than a backup.

What loser couldn't beat Tom Brady or Dan Marino out of a job.



Yeah, but as mentioned before, there was Joey Harrington in Detroit, and I'm also pretty sure Cleveland has needed a QB since, well forever. If he was so good, why didn't one of the teams seek a trade for him, or pursue him at all.

The Huard supporters seem to forget 2k4 and 2k5, where the guy actually struggled to make the team as a 3rd string QB behind Green and Collins.

But keep fooling yourself about him starting behind some HoF'ers. And when he blows chunks this season, I'm sure you will blame it on the
O-line.
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Huard was a one hit wonder, he wont be as good this year.
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Yeah, but as mentioned before, there was Joey Harrington in Detroit, and I'm also pretty sure Cleveland has needed a QB since, well forever. If he was so good, why didn't one of the teams seek a trade for him, or pursue him at all.

The Huard supporters seem to forget 2k4 and 2k5, where the guy actually struggled to make the team as a 3rd string QB behind Green and Collins.

But keep fooling yourself about him starting behind some HoF'ers. And when he blows chunks this season, I'm sure you will blame it on the
O-line.
Don't get me wrong.

I think Huard is average, at best.

Do you think if croyle is playing in a meaningful game, that herm is actually going to let him throw it?
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:47 PM   #28
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If we win anything, it will be be Buccaneer style.
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Let's face it, Herm edwards is your fuking coach.

If we win anything, it will be be Buccaneer style.
i haven't seen much to indicate that our defense is going to be anything special.
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