Hypothetical: Let's swap coaching staffs with the Pats - Page 2

**banyon** · 11-25-2007, 08:14 PM

I heard Bill Parcells (the poster, not the coach) say that Herm could have the greatest OL, QB, WR, and OC in the world and he would still coach this way.

What do you think? Let's assume the Pats will win, their record will be 11-0, the Chiefs are 4-7.

Lets say we got in our time machine and went back to Training Camp. We send Herm, Solari, Dick Curl and co to NE, Carl kidnaps Belichick, et al and drags them kicking and screaming to 1 Arrowhead Drive.

Same Rosters and Schedules. What would our respective records be?

Poll to follow, vote 2x only please (yes, this means YOU JBucc!

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**banyon** · 11-25-2007, 11:52 PM

I vote with the pats 8-3 kc 7-4 crowd for the same reasons as outlined in the first couple of posts. I do think it is comical though to speculate on what Herm would do with a historically elite offense

Simplex3 · 11-26-2007, 12:20 AM

The Pats players would have completely revolted against Herm. Either he would have turned over the ship or they would have all given up.

I agree that the Chiefs would have moved TG and LJ in the offseason. I also think they would be a lot better off right now and easily in control of the AFCW.

I'd say half the coaches in this league NOT in the AFCW would have the Chiefs in first in the division right now.

RedThat · 11-26-2007, 03:26 AM

If Herm went to NE, I think that would be very similar to Tony Dungy when he went from Tampa to Indy.

I don't think Herm would be stupid enough to not let Tom Brady do his thing? Unless Im wrong. But, Manning and Moore pretty much saved Dungy.

You have to think to right? Herm would be in a great situation there. Any coach in that type of situation would just let things be the way they are before they got there, and just let the superstar perform and do his thing.

We saw that with Marty too? He went to SD, and let Tomlinson do his thing? He didn't exactly handcuff the offense?

I don't think it would make that much of a difference? NE has 10x better overall talent then we do, so I think they'd be like a 9-2.

On the other hand, if Belicheck came here, I think it would make a huge difference? Different situation all together. You wouldn't be seeing poor clock management, or bad game management skills?

You would be seeing better game planning and philsophies. Better team morale. You would be seeing better game making decisions, better halftime adjustments, better execution and prepared from the team, better discipline from the team. That 3-4 extra wins right there. I say the Chiefs would be 7-4, 8-3?

View Poll Results: Pats/Chiefs Coach swap- which record is better?
NE 11-0	3	9.09%
NE 10-1	1	3.03%
NE 9-2	7	21.21%
NE 8-3	5	15.15%
NE 7-4	4	12.12%
NE 6-5	2	6.06%
Ne 5-6	2	6.06%
NE 4-7	1	3.03%
NE 3-8	0	0%
NE 2-9	0	0%
NE 1-10	0	0%
NE 0-11	1	3.03%
KC 11-0	2	6.06%
KC 10-1	0	0%
KC 9-2	3	9.09%
KC 8-3	3	9.09%
KC 7-4	11	33.33%
KC 6-5	2	6.06%
KC 5-6	1	3.03%
KC 4-7	0	0%
KC 3-8	0	0%
KC 2-9	0	0%
KC 1-10	0	0%
KC 0-11	1	3.03%
Other	0	0%
Gaz says this is reeruned	5	15.15%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

11-25-2007, 08:14 PM
banyon Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hermosa, SD Casino cash: $10176551	Hypothetical: Let's swap coaching staffs with the Pats I heard Bill Parcells (the poster, not the coach) say that Herm could have the greatest OL, QB, WR, and OC in the world and he would still coach this way. What do you think? Let's assume the Pats will win, their record will be 11-0, the Chiefs are 4-7. Lets say we got in our time machine and went back to Training Camp. We send Herm, Solari, Dick Curl and co to NE, Carl kidnaps Belichick, et al and drags them kicking and screaming to 1 Arrowhead Drive. Same Rosters and Schedules. What would our respective records be? Poll to follow, vote 2x only please (yes, this means YOU JBucc! )
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11-25-2007, 11:52 PM	#16
banyon Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hermosa, SD Casino cash: $10176551	I vote with the pats 8-3 kc 7-4 crowd for the same reasons as outlined in the first couple of posts. I do think it is comical though to speculate on what Herm would do with a historically elite offense __________________ “When war breaks out people say: 'It won't last, it's too stupid.' And war is certainly too stupid, but that doesn't prevent It from lasting.” ~Albert Camus, The Plague.
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11-26-2007, 12:20 AM	#17
Simplex3 MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	The Pats players would have completely revolted against Herm. Either he would have turned over the ship or they would have all given up. I agree that the Chiefs would have moved TG and LJ in the offseason. I also think they would be a lot better off right now and easily in control of the AFCW. I'd say half the coaches in this league NOT in the AFCW would have the Chiefs in first in the division right now.
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11-26-2007, 03:26 AM	#18
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	If Herm went to NE, I think that would be very similar to Tony Dungy when he went from Tampa to Indy. I don't think Herm would be stupid enough to not let Tom Brady do his thing? Unless Im wrong. But, Manning and Moore pretty much saved Dungy. You have to think to right? Herm would be in a great situation there. Any coach in that type of situation would just let things be the way they are before they got there, and just let the superstar perform and do his thing. We saw that with Marty too? He went to SD, and let Tomlinson do his thing? He didn't exactly handcuff the offense? I don't think it would make that much of a difference? NE has 10x better overall talent then we do, so I think they'd be like a 9-2. On the other hand, if Belicheck came here, I think it would make a huge difference? Different situation all together. You wouldn't be seeing poor clock management, or bad game management skills? You would be seeing better game planning and philsophies. Better team morale. You would be seeing better game making decisions, better halftime adjustments, better execution and prepared from the team, better discipline from the team. That 3-4 extra wins right there. I say the Chiefs would be 7-4, 8-3?
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