4 games in, how is Brodie progressing as a QB - Page 2

Wile_E_Coyote · 12-17-2007, 12:18 PM

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scale of one to ten

talastan · 12-17-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote

Croyle, Bowe & Kolby are keeping me interested in watching the offense

Agreed this game was enjoyable to watch simply because of the youth. Croyle, if given a decent O-line this offseason, is going to prove himself as the starter for this franchise IMO. He's already showed a calm steadyness behind what would be for most new starters a miserable situation.

trndobrd · 12-17-2007, 02:20 PM

This was the first game where they didn't seem to be coddling him with the play calling. I agree that some dropped passes and penalties (holding on Kennison reception) are not helping him.

The game doesn't seem to be happening too fast for him and despite everything doesn't seem bewildered by what is happening around him.

RustShack · 12-17-2007, 02:25 PM

Piss poor coaching staff, horrible line, receivers droping balls, still has great flashes, I'd say he's looking pretty damn good. Especially when you look at how a lot of other QB's do when they have only started four games. I think hes improving every week.

C-Mac · 12-17-2007, 02:35 PM

Looked real good especially when compared to Romo and Brady this week.

FAX · 12-17-2007, 03:12 PM

I'm listening with mild interest to that idiot on 810 talking about how we need to either trade our 2nd round pick for Pennington/McNabb/OldExperiencedGuy or pick a QB in the first round. It's sad.

I voted "8" because I haven't seen anything to indicate that he doesn't have the tools. If we had won a game or two, I still would have voted "8", which leads me to the point of this post thing.

A lot of fans (and I mean a whole bunch) rank QBs (young or otherwise) based solely on wins/losses. This is what that KK guy is doing. Frankly, I would love to see Croyle with a win or two under his belt at this stage. On the other hand, life abhors a straight line and things will turn around for him eventually - whether it's on this team or some other. When it does, this experience will be invaluable to him. In the meantime (were I the coach), I would be far more concerned with the fumbles, drops, and penalties. These indicate a lack of discipline and concentration team-wide.

This team can be fixed. I believe that. If we have a great draft, we might see a solid team in 2 to 3 years. Unfortunately, I am unconvinced that Herm can fix it. I'm afraid that his drafting is overrated. His player development skills are overrated. His abilities as a motivator are overrated. And, his philosophy is archaic. That means that Croyle is in a very tough situation. Very tough. The fans will turn on him, the media will turn on him, and Herm will be covering his own ass along the way. It's going to be a long, difficult road for him.

FAX

chiefsfan1963 · 12-17-2007, 03:13 PM

needs more playing time before I can come to any conclusions. I still say we draft another QB in the later rounds.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-17-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

I gave him a 4 mostly because he hasn't done enough to justify the Chiefs passing on a Ryan, Brohm or Woodson should the Chiefs be in a position to draft any of those QBs in the first round.

reerun.

FAX · 12-17-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GarySpFc

There is a very good article in the Star today by Kent Babb. Both Kennison and Tony Gonzalez had positive things to say about Brodie.

Hmmm. I've been looking for this article and can't seem to locate it, Mr. GarySpFc. Do you have a link thing?

FAX

Micjones · 12-17-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

I gave him a 4 mostly because he hasn't done enough to justify the Chiefs passing on a Ryan, Brohm or Woodson should the Chiefs be in a position to draft any of those QBs in the first round.

Exactly...

I wonder what people are seeing.

**the Talking Can** · 12-17-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Hmmm. I've been looking for this article and can't seem to locate it, Mr. GarySpFc. Do you have a link thing?

FAX

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=176801

FAX · 12-17-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Exactly...

I wonder what people are seeing.

Good arm. Can makes all the throws. Good decision-making given his tenure. Calm and collected. Competitive. Tough. Makes the reads. Stuff like that.

FAX

**the Talking Can** · 12-17-2007, 04:30 PM

the only thing that matters right now is how is he progressing from game to game...winning is irrelevant, as is comparing to Farve and Marino...

is he getting better?....yes, obviously

FAX · 12-17-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Bong

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=176801

Thanks, Mr. the Talking Can.

FAX

trndobrd · 12-17-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Bong

the only thing that matters right now is how is he progressing from game to game...winning is irrelevant, as is comparing to Farve and Marino...

is he getting better?....yes, obviously

I agree, although you won't see him take it to the level of SB champion until the Chiefs trade him away for a 4th round pick and a washed up Cornerback.

**Tribal Warfare** · 12-17-2007, 04:38 PM

I gave him an 8, with the O-line and coaching he's working with.

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12-17-2007, 03:12 PM	#20
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	I'm listening with mild interest to that idiot on 810 talking about how we need to either trade our 2nd round pick for Pennington/McNabb/OldExperiencedGuy or pick a QB in the first round. It's sad. I voted "8" because I haven't seen anything to indicate that he doesn't have the tools. If we had won a game or two, I still would have voted "8", which leads me to the point of this post thing. A lot of fans (and I mean a whole bunch) rank QBs (young or otherwise) based solely on wins/losses. This is what that KK guy is doing. Frankly, I would love to see Croyle with a win or two under his belt at this stage. On the other hand, life abhors a straight line and things will turn around for him eventually - whether it's on this team or some other. When it does, this experience will be invaluable to him. In the meantime (were I the coach), I would be far more concerned with the fumbles, drops, and penalties. These indicate a lack of discipline and concentration team-wide. This team can be fixed. I believe that. If we have a great draft, we might see a solid team in 2 to 3 years. Unfortunately, I am unconvinced that Herm can fix it. I'm afraid that his drafting is overrated. His player development skills are overrated. His abilities as a motivator are overrated. And, his philosophy is archaic. That means that Croyle is in a very tough situation. Very tough. The fans will turn on him, the media will turn on him, and Herm will be covering his own ass along the way. It's going to be a long, difficult road for him. FAX
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