Football Chris Long vs Vernon Gholston - Page 2

royr17 · 04-18-2008, 08:54 AM

Its looking as if Chris Long is going to be available when the chiefs pick.

But this is a interesting question right here. As we know Chris Long is the son of Howie Long who played for the Raiders.

According to Adam Shefter he believes the Raiders will take Vernon Gholston, which they very well could do.

But with Chris Long being the son of Howie Long, it makes me wonder to they pass on the sure pick in Gholston to bring another Long to Oakland.

I hope that Oakland takes Long and leaves Gholston for the Chiefs. What do you guys think ?

Hoover · 04-18-2008, 09:09 AM

Heres the deal, if the Raiders pass on Chris Long, I jump all over that guy because he's going to be PISSED.

beach tribe · 04-18-2008, 09:10 AM

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The closest thing to JA that we could ask for.

beach tribe · 04-18-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Heres the deal, if the Raiders pass on Chris Long, I jump all over that guy because he's going to be PISSED.

Good point. He would make the Raiders pay for the next 10 yrs.

Then Carl will piss him off, and we'll trade him to Vikes for less than market valie.

royr17 · 04-18-2008, 09:13 AM

True, Long would probably be the better Defensive End then Vernon Gholston now that I think about it. Gholston could be a player like Derrick Thomas. Just a pass rusher. Long is more suited more the defense we run, big talented Defensive End's. Hali and Long sounds good to me.

Chiefnj2 · 04-18-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PHOG

Exactly, why would us trading Allen and picking up the 17th pick+whatever, change anything in the top five except what KC's going to do?

It shouldn't change anything, but Schefter was on NFL network saying it would change everything. Why, because Schefter is an ass. Also, they all know damn well there probably won't be much trading and movement this year so the talking heads need something to babble about and all of a sudden the #5 pick is exciting for no reason at all.

Chiefs=Champions · 04-18-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by royr17

According to Adam Shefter, he believe that if the Chiefs do indeed trade Allen to Minnesota that Chris Long will be available for that pick. But he also said that there is no way that Matt Ryan gets past Atlanta at # 3.

If thats the case then theres no way we pick Long instead of Dorsey.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-18-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

If thats the case then theres no way we pick Long instead of Dorsey.

remember Schefter's stance on the Dolphin/Green situation- "This deal will be done , and KC will get a 7th round pick out of it"

StcChief · 04-18-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Matt Ryan

won't be there

rad · 04-18-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by royr17

According to Adam Shefter, he believe that if the Chiefs do indeed trade Allen to Minnesota that Chris Long will be available for that pick. But he also said that there is no way that Matt Ryan gets past Atlanta at # 3.

How does trading Allen to Min. affect who gets picked 1 - 4?

Hoover · 04-18-2008, 09:47 AM

Actually it does because now we have a clear need at the DE spot and teams like the Patriots and Bengals also have the same need. So either teams will want to trade in front of us, or encourage us to trade down. I can still see a Chiefs/Patriots trade happening on draft day if we can get the player we want at 7.

**DaKCMan AP** · 04-18-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Actually it does because now we have a clear need at the DE spot.

We have a clear need at every position except for P and maybe RB.

Pitt Gorilla · 04-18-2008, 09:51 AM

I would take Long in a heartbeat.

nychief · 04-18-2008, 09:52 AM

long is the real deal. I'd be happy with the pick... we are talking about JAKE long right?

Kylo Ren · 04-18-2008, 09:53 AM

For defense:
Dorsey
Long
Gholston
.... in that order.

Isn't Gholston a LB / DE hybrid, whereas Long is a pure DE? Just wondering.

**Rain Man** · 04-18-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rad

How does trading Allen to Min. affect who gets picked 1 - 4?

Don't stop him. He's on a roll.

04-18-2008, 08:54 AM
royr17 MVP Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lovin my kids Casino cash: $1588676	Chris Long vs Vernon Gholston Its looking as if Chris Long is going to be available when the chiefs pick. But this is a interesting question right here. As we know Chris Long is the son of Howie Long who played for the Raiders. According to Adam Shefter he believes the Raiders will take Vernon Gholston, which they very well could do. But with Chris Long being the son of Howie Long, it makes me wonder to they pass on the sure pick in Gholston to bring another Long to Oakland. I hope that Oakland takes Long and leaves Gholston for the Chiefs. What do you guys think ?
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04-18-2008, 09:09 AM	#16
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1248179	Heres the deal, if the Raiders pass on Chris Long, I jump all over that guy because he's going to be PISSED.
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04-18-2008, 09:10 AM	#17
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royr17 MVP Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lovin my kids Casino cash: $1588676	True, Long would probably be the better Defensive End then Vernon Gholston now that I think about it. Gholston could be a player like Derrick Thomas. Just a pass rusher. Long is more suited more the defense we run, big talented Defensive End's. Hali and Long sounds good to me.
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04-18-2008, 09:47 AM	#25
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1248179	Actually it does because now we have a clear need at the DE spot and teams like the Patriots and Bengals also have the same need. So either teams will want to trade in front of us, or encourage us to trade down. I can still see a Chiefs/Patriots trade happening on draft day if we can get the player we want at 7.
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nychief MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC Casino cash: $6869466	long is the real deal. I'd be happy with the pick... we are talking about JAKE long right? __________________ Good Time Charlie, Uncle Doobie and the Great Frisco Freakout.
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04-18-2008, 09:53 AM	#29
Kylo Ren Grandson of Darth Vader Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Starkiller Base Casino cash: $10015175	For defense: Dorsey Long Gholston .... in that order. Isn't Gholston a LB / DE hybrid, whereas Long is a pure DE? Just wondering. __________________ Forgive me. I feel it again... the call from light. Supreme Leader senses it. Show me again the power of the darkness, and I'll let nothing stand in our way. Show me, grandfather, and I will finish what you started. I will fulfill our destiny.
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