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Old 04-19-2008, 11:20 PM  
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Tamba Hali and... Khreem Smith?
If we trade Allen away, who the hell is going to be our other starting DE? McBride? Do we even have any other DEs on the roster?

What the hell good is an extra draft pick if we're pidgeon-holed into using our #5 on a replacement for Allen? It's like a worse version of trading down to the 17 spot.

We are shallow at DE. Nevermind that we'd be dumping our best defensive player, we'd also be creating another hole in a roster that's already got more holes than we're likely able to fill.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:44 AM   #16
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:47 AM   #17
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:49 AM   #18
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:50 AM   #19
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:51 AM   #20
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:51 AM   #21
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:28 AM   #23
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:40 AM   #24
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Old 04-20-2008, 02:21 AM   #25
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So what does trading Allen actually gain us? A 3rd round pick?

Regardless of what year they replace Allen, to get anything close in talent they're going to have to burn a high pick. Whether it's #5, #17, or a 1st in '08, we basically only get a net gain of a single 3rd round pick. And that's assuming we get something comparable in talent with his replacement.

The only way we actually "gain" more than that is if we actually have someone already under contract who can fill that hole, or if we get a once in a lifetime sleeper from later rounds. To get the full benefit of both 1st round picks, it's highly likely that we'll also suffer significant downgrade at DE.

I just don't think there's as much value being gained as some people are imagining. everyone is dreaming of rebuilding our O-line and getting a DT or QB thanks to that extra pick, but they are ignoring the gaping hole created at DE.

Bah we get eleventy billion picks and good times had by all
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Old 04-20-2008, 03:30 AM   #26
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CP isnt about to pay a guy like JA good money, he was only a 4th round pick. So in CP's eye's, JA doesn't deserve a big contract..remember Joe Horn?
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Old 04-20-2008, 06:10 AM   #27
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CP isnt about to pay a guy like JA good money, he was only a 4th round pick. So in CP's eye's, JA doesn't deserve a big contract..remember Joe Horn?
There isn't any comparison.

Joe Horn didn't do anything as a Chief.
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Old 04-20-2008, 06:12 AM   #28
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Old 04-20-2008, 08:01 AM   #29
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its called trading JA away to vikings for 1st 3rd and Bryant McKinney we would draft Branden Albert at 5 then at 17 draft Merling
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If we trade Allen away, who the hell is going to be our other starting DE? McBride? Do we even have any other DEs on the roster?

What the hell good is an extra draft pick if we're pidgeon-holed into using our #5 on a replacement for Allen? It's like a worse version of trading down to the 17 spot.

We are shallow at DE. Nevermind that we'd be dumping our best defensive player, we'd also be creating another hole in a roster that's already got more holes than we're likely able to fill.
Because we will get NOTHING for him if we do not trade him. The chances of resigning him while CP is still here is slim to none. If we don't trade him, we are left with a gaping hole and not even a "third round pick" for compensation.

It's no about what we are gaining from ths trade, it's about trying to minimize losses....which is similar to what someone else said on this thread.
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