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Old 04-27-2008, 12:42 PM  
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Draft Reality Check

I'm thrilled with this year's draft as many of you are. However...

Reality check:

KC allowed 55 sacks last year (T-last)
KC rushed for 78 YPG last year (last).

I'm all excited about the DT, CBs, WR, RB, etc... but this was supposed to be the draft that addressed the OL.

Right now we are looking at just 4 starters: Albert, Waters, MacIntosh and Niswanger. No telling who will play what and there ain't crap there for depth.

Remember, Gailey will run a lot of 2-TE sets with downhill rushing plays. I'm not seeing the kind of top tier OL that can get that done here.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:49 PM   #16
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I guess we're starting Wade Smith at center and Niswanger at guard. I was hoping we'd pick up another guard or center, but we had to have that blocking TE in the third.
I'm all for the youth movement and I understand the policy of BPA.

However, what about all that caution about trying to develop a young QB who is running for his life and has no rushing attack to fall back on? Those 2 stats (dead last in pass protect and rushing) are not going to improve because we might have the best defense in the AFCW. I also agree with the strategy of stocking talent but the place we most needed talent was OL. Just my $.02.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:49 PM   #17
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I just don't understand taking ONE lineman in the first five rounds. It's stupid given the state of our sorry-ass line.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:49 PM   #18
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I take the fact that he doesn't like it was the surest sign of all that it's a good draft.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:50 PM   #19
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The Chiefs have kicked ass with their picks. I haven't seen them do this well in Carl's entire tenure. I love to dog pile on the FO, but this weekend isn't one of them. The FO actually deserves some props for their extensive research on taking the best players to improve this team long-term.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:51 PM   #20
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:51 PM   #21
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I take the fact that he doesn't like it was the surest sign of all that it's a good draft.
We'ren't you one of the most vocal advocates against the "win ugly 13-10" approach of the Edwards regime?

Also, I did not say I didn't like it; I merely pointed out that the #1 most glaring need personnel-wise is still the #1 most glaring need personnel-wise.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:51 PM   #22
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Guess what the Chiefs are being smart, there are still some guys who will start left..

A couple of my personal faves are Barry Richardson and Brandon Keith.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:52 PM   #23
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Chiefs are basically looking at the next two or maybe three drafts as an opportunity for them to draft somewhere in the region of 22 to 28 players across the board that can help this team win. If they hit the jackpot on just a few of them (such as Dorsey and Albert), while the rest contribute BECAUSE THEY WERE THE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE, that's a major success and KC will become a championship caliber team for the LONG HAUL.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:52 PM   #24
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Guess what the Chiefs are being smart, there are still some guys who will start left..

A couple of my personal faves are Barry Richardson and Brandon Keith.
We should definitely take Keith. His first name is "Brandon"!
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:52 PM   #25
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I think it's a travesty that we took that little RB (too small to play in the NFL!), and safety, that blocking TE or Will Franklin instead of Carl Nicks. Carl Nicks, damn it. Carl Nicks.

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Old 04-27-2008, 12:53 PM   #26
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I'm all for the youth movement and I understand the policy of BPA.

However, what about all that caution about trying to develop a young QB who is running for his life and has no rushing attack to fall back on? Those 2 stats (dead last in pass protect and rushing) are not going to improve because we might have the best defense in the AFCW. I also agree with the strategy of stocking talent but the place we most needed talent was OL. Just my $.02.
Who says we haven't improved it for Brodie? Albert most definitely should be a major upgrade, and getting Wiegmann out of there might be an upgrade (he certainly was part of the problem last year). You can't fix it all in one draft. We did spend a first-round pick on OL. We'll add depth with UDFAs.

The OL should be better next year, and even better in 2009. Baby steps.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:54 PM   #27
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Is this thread advocating the Chiefs to reach for need and losing value?

With the big time run on o-lineman, it just wasn't worth spending a top pick.

You might try to argue that one of the third rounders could be spent on OL, but the first two rounders were about as good as it gets.
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Is this thread advocating the Chiefs to reach for need and losing value?

With the big time run on o-lineman, it just wasn't worth spending a top pick.

You might try to argue that one of the third rounders could be spent on OL, but the first two rounders were about as good as it gets.
No, this thread is raising the issue of the obvious, that's all. This OL is still a mess and we are staring in the face of another season where scoring 13 ppg will be tough sledding.

I understand the youth movement, rebuild, BPA, blah blah blah, but I am still a little disppointed in the OL draft. I guess its mainly because all off-season I had visions of Jake Long starting at OLT in 2008.
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Old 04-27-2008, 01:01 PM   #29
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No, this thread is raising the issue of the obvious, that's all. This OL is still a mess and we are staring in the face of another season where scoring 13 ppg will be tough sledding.

I understand the youth movement, rebuild, BPA, blah blah blah, but I am still a little disppointed in the OL draft. I guess its mainly because all off-season I had visions of Jake Long starting at OLT in 2008.
Can't blame the Chiefs for the run on lineman.

There are still some quality tackles out there that would fill out the line and if not there, free agents are a possible stop-gap in the rebuild.
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Can't blame the Chiefs for the run on lineman.

There are still some quality tackles out there that would fill out the line and if not there, free agents are a possible stop-gap in the rebuild.
Its not just the starting 5. Injuries can rapidly deplete the talent pool and you wind up calling up guys off the taxi squad. Our depth at OL is deplorable. I'm not saying we can't find some pleasant surprises in camp or off the waiver wire. That's a low probability however.
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