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05-07-2008, 09:35 PM | #18 |
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Never hurts to ask .. maybe you'll get the 2.50 ....
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05-07-2008, 09:42 PM | #20 |
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Rainman's correct. If they are encouraging you to take the "raise" you should take it because refusal might result in you being fired. If you find you are not happy with your new position, you should shop yourself about. It isn't often wise to upset your employer without having an out (new job).
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Salary is just a way to make you work overtime w/ out having to pay you for it. Ask for more than you want, and reach a compromise. Do NOT take what's essentially a pay cut.
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Another point I should make, and I hope I'm not insulting anyone by saying this, is that generally a salaried position means you're an "independent worker" and hourly means that you're a "production worker". As such, a salary position generally has a higher upside over time.
Also, it's not the employer's choice. The Federal Government forces employers to classify their jobs as salaried or hourly according to the government's (typically poor) judgment. I despise the fact that the government interferes with my business in this way, but employers have no choice but to follow the government's (typically stupid) rules.
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I would ask the average of 5+ dollars an hour raise for doing two peoples job and then accept at 4 dollars.. Hopefully you are in good with the bosses and asking this will be no problem.. Or see if they will give you better benefits without you paying for them or more vacation time for free.. If not, smile take the crummy offer and hopefully within a week or so turn in your two weeks and get a better job.. |
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In my office, I would classify most of my employees as white collar, and a few are pink collar. The pink collar are all classified by the government as "hourly", which means that I have to send them home at 40 hours or they get time and a half, which isn't feasible in my business. I've got some employees who are kind of in the middle, and I definitely would classify them as salaried, but the government makes me classify them as hourly, so therefore I have to send them home at 40 hours, even if they're working on deadlines. So the bottom line is that all of my employees want to meet their deadlines and get their work done and be successful, but I have to send some of them home at 40 hours while others are still working. It's a pretty stupid system all in all, and one more reason why I don't like the government meddling in my business.
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Along the same lines...they can put you on 'salary' but that has absolutely NOTHING to due with you getting OT or not. The real question is if you are exempt or not. If you're exempt then you can't get OT if you're not then you do get OT. Regardless of if you are on salary or not. They can't just put you on salary and make you exempt it doesn't work that way. Unless you are getting significantly more responsibilty(i.e. becoming a manager) you're still non-exempt and entitled to OT.
http://www.allbusiness.com/governmen...ons/808-1.html http://www.ewin.com/articles/exneot.htm
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I remember asking a little over a year ago for a $1 raise.
I didn't figure it was much. I'm not greedy. I'd been there 14 years. I worked there about 30 hours a week. If I made one more sale, ONCE A WEEK, it would cover my raise. They said no. I'm ****ing euphoric that I'm no longer employed there...
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This is troubling. Was the other employee only doing 6–10 hours of work in a week? If that's the case, you have much less leverage than you would otherwise.
The employer has to take two things into account (many more than two, really, but let's deal with the main two): 1. What do you cost the company? 2. What do you earn for the company? If all you're having to take on is 15–25% more work (timewise), then you should probably ask for the middle part of that figure (20%), tell them why, then let them know in a very friendly way that you'd like to revisit the matter in three months. You're obviously more valuable than the employee they let go, but that's about the only leverage you have at this point. Thank them for this opportunity, and let them know that you intend to prove yourself to be even more valuable than they guessed. Then work your ass off to prove it, and don't stop. Remember that recent thread about living with someone that you're not married to? Many responded that truthful and fair communication is the only way to sustain the relationship. You're not married to this company and they're not married to you. Communicate, communicate, communicate, and make yourself essential. |
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Questions you have to ask yourself.
How long to you plan to stay at your present company? Is this a promotion, or another "Oh, hey, ummm, guess what we need to do..." type deals made to look pretty with more money? Was it a firing that caused this? Or was it a downsizing? Do they plan to replace the loss of a employee? Will the new responsibilites be just add-on w/o a promotion? If you plan to stay for a good length of time and it is a promotion, maybe taking a hit on the free time you have wouldn't do you any harm at this point. You aren't married, no kids. WTF do you really have to lose? So you miss out on a beer with your buddies. Retirement isn't going to get any cheaper... Was the person fired? If so, why was he/she fired? Incompetence on his/her part? Or too demanding of a position? In the end though, either choice you make, you're young still. If it doesn't work out. Easily recoverable from. |
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