News Are Newspapers dead? - Page 2

Deberg_1990 · 05-19-2008, 10:17 AM

IM not talking about the Internet news. IM talking about the traditional "papers" you buy for .50 or .75 cents everyday. (or $1.50) on Sundays.

This little passage from Peter Kings MMQ got me to thinking. Do you still read the paper??

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...16/mmqb/3.html

I think it's a rotten week for newspapers. Really rotten, and not just because of the horrendous mistake by the Boston Herald.

One of the reasons I've always been such an avid newspaper person is because of writers like Tony Kornheiser. He's terrific on Pardon the Interruption, but he'll never, ever be better at anything than writing a newspaper column.

Last week, he took a buyout from his paper, the Washington Post, which, even though he hasn't been writing for the paper recently because of his TV commitments, is another nail in the coffin of the fishwrappers some of us still spend breakfast and commutes with.

I called Kornheiser, who told me he could still make a deal with the Post to allow him to write occasionally for the paper. But he was fairly fatalistic about the industry. "Newspapers aren't dying,'' he said. "They're dead. But was it a sad day when the guys who made the great buggywhips and the beautiful classic carriages saw the first cars rolling off the assembly line? No. It was progress.''

I'll disagree, in this vein: The morning won't be the morning for me without a paper with my Cheerios. But his point is valid. We're just getting the news delivered in a different way. Kornheiser is like me -- a 'net devotee. As long as there are good reporters working out here, he thinks all is not lost.

"What would be terrible is if we didn't have good reporters still out there," he said. "I fear more that reporters who do the persistent grunt work may not be there. I'm a yodeler who does skeet-shooting. I need stories to respond to.''

The yodeling is fine. Someone's got to find a way to get Kornheiser back to writing, too. He's too good for us not to have the chance to read him occasionally

**Nzoner** · 05-19-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ

Having said that, the company I work for rarely does newspaper advertising these days. Even just ten years back the paper was a great way to promote a sale, a really quick bang for the buck, but not anymore. Generally, the only response we get from print ads is from people past retirement age. Not that we don't love their business but we need more than that to justify the expense.

If it's okay with you I think I'll print this and use it on my direct mail website.

Mr. Plow · 05-19-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I subscribe to the Rocky Mountain News and read it while I'm on the bus on the way to work. If I didn't take the bus, though, I probably wouldn't ever read it.

crazycoffey · 05-19-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by acesn8s

Just because it's your birthday doesn't mean you can tell bad jokes.

It's not my Bday anymore and I always tell bad jokes....

**Buehler445** · 05-19-2008, 11:55 AM

I'm 25 years old and I do not subscribe to the paper. I don't know if any of my contemporaries do either. I don't think it has a place for me in my life.

On the other hand though, I don't feel terribly connected to my community. If I were, it may be a different story. As long as I can still get my news from the net, that is the direction I will go.

blueballs · 05-19-2008, 12:08 PM

Parrotts the world over
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**HemiEd** · 05-19-2008, 12:11 PM

They are clearly dying, along with magazines. I had a long established habit, of getting the paper early in the morning, and reading it while drinking my coffee.

I quit the paper, except for Sunday, a couple of years ago. (along with coffee) They called and called, I told them I don't read it and it is a waste of paper.

It has been almost comical, they keep delivering it, even after numerous calls on my part. I guess they need the stats bad enough, they are willing to deliver it free. Most days, it goes in the recycle bin, still in the bag.

"Bob" Dobbs · 05-19-2008, 01:04 PM

It seems to me that newspapers are dying in an odd way, compared to other industries... It's the big city papers that are suffering, while the small town papers are still, in some cases GROWING. You'd think it'd be the other way around.

KCChiefsMan · 05-19-2008, 01:21 PM

I sometimes read the sunday paper, otherwise I get all my news off the net.

StcChief · 05-19-2008, 02:01 PM

local news is really about the only value I see in them. those papers are free paid by advertising.

**chasedude** · 05-21-2008, 10:07 AM

I've given up on printed newspapers. I hate all the black ink that comes off on my hands. Feel like there should be a towel that comes with it to clean up with afterward.

**gblowfish** · 05-21-2008, 10:17 AM

I threw the KC Star off a truck for 4 years in High School. Great job. Took some skills to do it well. And it's hard for your folks to put a curfew on you when you go to work at 3AM.

I've read the KC Star every day since I was 14. I don't read it cover to cover, but get through most of it every day. I had a teacher in High School impress on our class that it is the solemn responsibility of a voting citizen to be informed as to the issues in the community. And it's important to get your news from more than one source, to try to get balance and perspective.

So besides the Star, I read the internet news, watch cable tv news and pick up a magazine like Time, Newsweek or US News occasionally.

In my house we subscribe to the KC Star, Independence Examiner and Lexington News -we have a lot of friends in Lexville, and I met my wife there.

The star is getting expensive, though. Around $200 a year I believe.

Abba-Dabba · 05-21-2008, 10:20 AM

Everyday. Employer pays for it though. If they didn't, I wouldn't bother with the paper edition.

Deberg_1990 · 05-21-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

I've read the KC Star every day since I was 14. I don't read it cover to cover, but get through most of it every day. I had a teacher in High School impress on our class that it is the solemn responsibility of a voting citizen to be informed as to the issues in the community. And it's important to get your news from more than one source, to try to get balance and perspective.

You are 100% right. The problem with papers or all print media in general is you can get most of the same content off their web pages.

The web is killing print media.

Mr. Arrowhead · 05-21-2008, 10:31 AM

why pay extra money to read a newspaper, when i can get the same story and read it on the net

kc rush · 05-21-2008, 10:52 AM

I get most of my news online, but I do subscribe to the Star. I will continue to do so until my dad retires from there.

05-19-2008, 10:17 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $2524454	Are Newspapers dead? IM not talking about the Internet news. IM talking about the traditional "papers" you buy for .50 or .75 cents everyday. (or $1.50) on Sundays. This little passage from Peter Kings MMQ got me to thinking. Do you still read the paper?? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...16/mmqb/3.html I think it's a rotten week for newspapers. Really rotten, and not just because of the horrendous mistake by the Boston Herald. One of the reasons I've always been such an avid newspaper person is because of writers like Tony Kornheiser. He's terrific on Pardon the Interruption, but he'll never, ever be better at anything than writing a newspaper column. Last week, he took a buyout from his paper, the Washington Post, which, even though he hasn't been writing for the paper recently because of his TV commitments, is another nail in the coffin of the fishwrappers some of us still spend breakfast and commutes with. I called Kornheiser, who told me he could still make a deal with the Post to allow him to write occasionally for the paper. But he was fairly fatalistic about the industry. "Newspapers aren't dying,'' he said. "They're dead. But was it a sad day when the guys who made the great buggywhips and the beautiful classic carriages saw the first cars rolling off the assembly line? No. It was progress.'' I'll disagree, in this vein: The morning won't be the morning for me without a paper with my Cheerios. But his point is valid. We're just getting the news delivered in a different way. Kornheiser is like me -- a 'net devotee. As long as there are good reporters working out here, he thinks all is not lost. "What would be terrible is if we didn't have good reporters still out there," he said. "I fear more that reporters who do the persistent grunt work may not be there. I'm a yodeler who does skeet-shooting. I need stories to respond to.'' The yodeling is fine. Someone's got to find a way to get Kornheiser back to writing, too. He's too good for us not to have the chance to read him occasionally
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05-19-2008, 11:55 AM	#19
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $824734	I'm 25 years old and I do not subscribe to the paper. I don't know if any of my contemporaries do either. I don't think it has a place for me in my life. On the other hand though, I don't feel terribly connected to my community. If I were, it may be a different story. As long as I can still get my news from the net, that is the direction I will go.
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05-19-2008, 12:08 PM	#20
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05-19-2008, 12:11 PM	#21
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $1820564	They are clearly dying, along with magazines. I had a long established habit, of getting the paper early in the morning, and reading it while drinking my coffee. I quit the paper, except for Sunday, a couple of years ago. (along with coffee) They called and called, I told them I don't read it and it is a waste of paper. It has been almost comical, they keep delivering it, even after numerous calls on my part. I guess they need the stats bad enough, they are willing to deliver it free. Most days, it goes in the recycle bin, still in the bag.
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05-19-2008, 01:04 PM	#22
"Bob" Dobbs Kickin' it in Dobbstown. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southeast Kansas Casino cash: $9824317	It seems to me that newspapers are dying in an odd way, compared to other industries... It's the big city papers that are suffering, while the small town papers are still, in some cases GROWING. You'd think it'd be the other way around.
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05-19-2008, 01:21 PM	#23
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05-19-2008, 02:01 PM	#24
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05-21-2008, 10:07 AM	#25
chasedude Supporter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Joe Casino cash: $9994900	I've given up on printed newspapers. I hate all the black ink that comes off on my hands. Feel like there should be a towel that comes with it to clean up with afterward.
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05-21-2008, 10:17 AM	#26
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17346178 VARSITY	I threw the KC Star off a truck for 4 years in High School. Great job. Took some skills to do it well. And it's hard for your folks to put a curfew on you when you go to work at 3AM. I've read the KC Star every day since I was 14. I don't read it cover to cover, but get through most of it every day. I had a teacher in High School impress on our class that it is the solemn responsibility of a voting citizen to be informed as to the issues in the community. And it's important to get your news from more than one source, to try to get balance and perspective. So besides the Star, I read the internet news, watch cable tv news and pick up a magazine like Time, Newsweek or US News occasionally. In my house we subscribe to the KC Star, Independence Examiner and Lexington News -we have a lot of friends in Lexville, and I met my wife there. The star is getting expensive, though. Around $200 a year I believe.
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05-21-2008, 10:20 AM	#27
Abba-Dabba MVP Join Date: May 2001 Casino cash: $4132970	Everyday. Employer pays for it though. If they didn't, I wouldn't bother with the paper edition.
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05-21-2008, 10:31 AM	#29
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05-21-2008, 10:52 AM	#30
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