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Old 08-16-2008, 04:50 PM  
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I just registered for the LSAT

Any advice? (Yes, I know "be smart." )

Good prep sites, books or the like?
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:20 PM   #16
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I know how you feel. After going to school for 16 years, more school isn't very appealing. What is your degree in?
Film with a Business minor.

It's funny because my MAJOR and MINOR GPAs are really good but the gen eds killed me. I didn't know of some crucial university policies and tricks. Sad that general education requirements are what kill you, especially since you won't use half that stuff anyway. That and you can't point out things like "missed an A by a whopping .3 percentage points," which I am the king of.

And I learned - too late - that I would have owned a Business major. Oh well.
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:24 PM   #17
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A close friend of mine (we worked at Paramount together back in the late 90's) is V.P. of TelePictures. He received his undergrad from the University of Miami (music), played the cruise ships for 5 years, then obtained a degree from Southwestern University here in SoCal. It's a very good school, though not that well known.

Another friend from the Paramount days received her undergrad at Loyola Marymount, then 5 years later went back and received her law degree (she used the college funding program at Paramount to pay for law school). She's now over at Lionsgate.

The bottom line is that there are alternatives to USC if you don't get in, but you're more likely to hook up up and coming film makers at USC, which could lead to your dream of producing.

And you're correct - anyone with dough can produce. The problem is that unless you have an absolute ton of cash to lose, it's best to get in early with these guys and work with along the way. The producers stand the most to gain and the most to lose.

Good luck!
Out of curiosity, what would you put as the 5 top film schools? I figured the first two are USC and NYU followed perhaps by Columbia in Chicago.
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:30 PM   #18
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:40 PM   #19
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Out of curiosity, what would you put as the 5 top film schools? I figured the first two are USC and NYU followed perhaps by Columbia in Chicago.
I'd add UCLA to that group as well.

There's also a Los Angeles Film School, which is just down the hill from me at Sunset & Ivar.

They do a very good job of placing their students in various jobs (editing, production, etc.).
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:42 PM   #20
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:44 PM   #21
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Princeton Review works well. You suck if you can't surpass 170.

Seriously though, don't go to law school if your heart's not in it. It's not the huge money maker that many think it is, and 3 years is a grind if you're not fully committed.
I have a few law school grad friends that are having a tough time getting on somewhere for a job that makes even avg money.

My gf wanted to be a lawyer, still does, but where she works now she probably will make more money longterm if she stays in that field, healthcare business analyst
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:48 PM   #22
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I have a few law school grad friends that are having a tough time getting on somewhere for a job that makes even avg money.

My gf wanted to be a lawyer, still does, but where she works now she probably will make more money longterm if she stays in that field, healthcare business analyst
I think that all depends on where you obtain your degree.

A Georgetown, Yale, Harvard, Stanford, University of Texas, USC or UCLA grad usually don't encounter any problems. I have a friend who's sister graduated from UT last year and her first job was $250k for a NYC firm. Not too shabby. I've got a close friend who make double that got his degree from Georgetown.

If it's a small school that's less well known, you're probably going to have a some problem.
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:50 PM   #23
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I think that all depends on where you obtain your degree.

A Georgetown, Yale, Harvard, Stanford, University of Texas, USC or UCLA grad usually don't encounter any problems. I have a friend who's sister graduated from UT last year and her first job was $250k for a NYC firm. Not too shabby. I've got a close friend who make double that got his degree from Georgetown.

If it's a small school that's less well known, you're probably going to have a some problem.
Yeah one went to some school in Illinois that i dont remember and then the other is from UMKC...

My gf wants to go and if she does it will probably be in California when we move there, probably
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Yeah one went to some school in Illinois that i dont remember and then the other is from UMKC...

My gf wants to go and if she does it will probably be in California when we move there, probably
Cool! Good luck!
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I would assume I'd stay at KU and enter there. I was strongly considering the JD/MBA 2 year program, but I've heard the two are kinda pointless to pair.
JD + CPA = tax accountant

My cousin's husband went this route and probably pulls around $200K.

As far as preparation goes, I have a colleague that is really high on the Stanley Kaplan courses. He had a daughter than went to Harvard and a son that went to Columbia Unvirsity.

Law school is one of those things that is only worth doing if you are going to do it 100%. Get into the best school you can and do the best you can. Graduating in the middle of the class at an average school is probably not worth doing.
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Old 08-16-2008, 06:53 PM   #28
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JD + CPA = tax accountant

My cousin's husband went this route and probably pulls around $200K.

As far as preparation goes, I have a colleague that is really high on the Stanley Kaplan courses. He had a daughter than went to Harvard and a son that went to Columbia Unvirsity.

Law school is one of those things that is only worth doing if you are going to do it 100%. Get into the best school you can and do the best you can. Graduating in the middle of the class at an average school is probably not worth doing.
And that's what worries me. I'm not sure about any of it.


Out of curiosity and for anybody, what exactly does an MBA do other than say "hey I went to school longer"?
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Old 08-16-2008, 07:12 PM   #29
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Film with a Business minor.

It's funny because my MAJOR and MINOR GPAs are really good but the gen eds killed me. I didn't know of some crucial university policies and tricks. Sad that general education requirements are what kill you, especially since you won't use half that stuff anyway. That and you can't point out things like "missed an A by a whopping .3 percentage points," which I am the king of.

And I learned - too late - that I would have owned a Business major. Oh well.
Yeah, I have a really hard time getting movitaved to do things that aren't going to benefit me sometime in the near future, so gen eds really killed me. I sort of get how they're supposed to make you a well-rounded person, but like you said, it really sucks that there are so many and that they can really kill your gpa.


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Out of curiosity and for anybody, what exactly does an MBA do other than say "hey I went to school longer"?
More money, and for me, it was a good way to balance my undergrad computer science degree with MIS and business classes.

I went back for an MBA because my job at the time sucked, but I'm very glad I did it. Unlike undergrad Biology and so forth, all of the MBA classes are relevant, IMO. It's also helpful on my resume to have my MBA gpa above my undergrad gpa.
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Old 08-16-2008, 07:23 PM   #30
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Yeah, I have a really hard time getting movitaved to do things that aren't going to benefit me sometime in the near future, so gen eds really killed me. I sort of get how they're supposed to make you a well-rounded person, but like you said, it really sucks that there are so many and that they can really kill your gpa.




More money, and for me, it was a good way to balance my undergrad computer science degree with MIS and business classes.

I went back for an MBA because my job at the time sucked, but I'm very glad I did it. Unlike undergrad Biology and so forth, all of the MBA classes are relevant, IMO. It's also helpful on my resume to have my MBA gpa above my undergrad gpa.
If I may, what did you end up going into after the MBA (where are you now)?
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