Poll on LJ over on Star Sports Page

[Coogs]

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/

Should he stay? Or Should he go?

824 folks have weighed in their opinions as of this post.

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by milkman

You want a good reason other than attitude?

Here it is.

LJ has limited vison and patience, is considered a power back who has limited power, can't (or won't) block, is a marginal reciever, who has only ever done one thing well, that being lowering his shoulder and knocking smaller defenders on their ass when he got into the second level, but in the last two seasons has pussified and hasn't even done that.

In short, he simply sucks ass.

You analysis seems spot on. I think he could be real good in limited roles, but will he accept a limited role? I think he would piss and moan then go out and beat another female in another bar. I say get what you can for him now.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by milkman

You want a good reason other than attitude?

Here it is.

LJ has limited vison and patience, is considered a power back who has limited power, can't (or won't) block, is a marginal reciever, who has only ever done one thing well, that being lowering his shoulder and knocking smaller defenders on their ass when he got into the second level, but in the last two seasons has pussified and hasn't even done that.

In short, he simply sucks ass.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I totally disagree. I want LJ to stay here the same as I wanted Jared too. But IIRC, the majority of this board was all for trading JA. The lamenting didn't start until he started kicking ass for Minnesota.

I, for one am still glad that they traded Jared Allen. I am not sure he has his act together. If you watched him on tape last year, he was not as good as he was in 2007. The difference is that he played on a better line.

Now, I would have MUCH rather traded LJ, but I don't think the Chiefs had a decent offer.



Allen doesn't fit in a 3-4 anyways.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by milkman

You want a good reason other than attitude?

Here it is.

LJ has limited vison and patience, is considered a power back who has limited power, can't (or won't) block, is a marginal reciever, who has only ever done one thing well, that being lowering his shoulder and knocking smaller defenders on their ass when he got into the second level, but in the last two seasons has pussified and hasn't even done that.

In short, he simply sucks ass.

About the only thing I can find fault with is the limited power part. I am not for getting rid right now for nothing, because he is still clearly the best overall back on the roster.

Also, last year was his first in the zone running scheme, and the transition was even harder running out of the spread formation.

Not going to hurt my feelings if he goes, but he is out best everydown back right now.

[Coogs]

A little over 2500 votes as of this post.

Go - 1726 69%
Stay - 782 31%

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by LaChapelle

Male violence towards women is a taboo that runs deep in this country. LJ may leave KC, but that will dog him for life.

But drinking and driving, and dogfighting, there are two perfectly acceptable practices.

[LaChapelle]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

But drinking and driving, and dogfighting, there are two perfectly acceptable practices.

And that has just what to do, with this poll about LJ? A poll at the KC Star.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by LaChapelle

And that has just what to do, with this poll about LJ? A poll at the KC Star.

Just an observation.

People around here fell all over themselves defending Jared Allen, who had alcohol related issues dating back to college.

People here continue to say that Vick should get another chance, after murdering dogs via electrocution, body-slamming and dogfighting, as well as gambling - which got Pete Rose banned from his sport.

I'm not defending LJ's actions by any means, but there is a massive double standard around this place.

[Katipan]

Originally Posted by LaChapelle

Male violence towards women is a taboo that runs deep in this country. LJ may leave KC, but that will dog him for life.

I don't know about that. We tend to forgive superstars.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Just an observation.

People around here fell all over themselves defending Jared Allen, who had alcohol related issues dating back to college.

People here continue to say that Vick should get another chance, after murdering dogs via electrocution, body-slamming and dogfighting, as well as gambling - which got Pete Rose banned from his sport.

I'm not defending LJ's actions by any means, but there is a massive double standard around this place.

I voted Go. And it had far, far more to do with what Milkman posted than anything else. I am way more interested in the Chiefs in the long haul than I am interested in the Chiefs 2009 version. Sure, I want to see better things in 2009, but the long term vision of where the Chiefs are going is much more important to me.

Going in a different direction with this franchise should not stop with the people in the front office and coaching staffs. A trade scenario would be the better option, but just cutting ties if that does not happen would be addition by subtraction as well.

JMO

[Buehler445]

Wait. What? JA I saw. Are people really advocating Vick get another chance?
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[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I voted Go. And it had far, far more to do with what Milkman posted than anything else. I am way more interested in the Chiefs in the long haul than I am interested in the Chiefs 2009 version. Sure, I want to see better things in 2009, but the long term vision of where the Chiefs are going is much more important to me.

Going in a different direction with this franchise should not stop with the people in the front office and coaching staffs. A trade scenario would be the better option, but just cutting ties if that does not happen would be addition by subtraction as well.

JMO

FWIW, I could care less if he stays or goes.

I've said numerous times before, that if this coaching staff is actually going to USE HIM, then I think we should keep him unless we get a decent trade offer - which I'm doubting.

The only reason I'd be OK with flat-out cutting him is if they are planning to ignore the running game as Haley did last year, or if they honestly feel that they can get by with Smith/Charles, someone else on the roster, a draft pick or a FA signing.

[LaChapelle]

Originally Posted by Katipan

I don't know about that. We tend to forgive superstars.

You do not hit a woman, was part of growing up male in my neighborhood. I tended to think that was the American way. Perhaps I am wrong.

[LaChapelle]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Wait. What? JA I saw. Are people really advocating Vick get another chance?
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Vick was spotted on a plane at KCI!!!!

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

FWIW, I could care less if he stays or goes.

I've said numerous times before, that if this coaching staff is actually going to USE HIM, then I think we should keep him unless we get a decent trade offer - which I'm doubting.

The only reason I'd be OK with flat-out cutting him is if they are planning to ignore the running game as Haley did last year, or if they honestly feel that they can get by with Smith/Charles, someone else on the roster, a draft pick or a FA signing.

Thing is, I didn't see any heart out of LJ. I can not even begin to recall how many times last season we handed him the ball on 1st down... and I just knew it was going to be 2nd and long. And not because of the O-line play either. I just had no faith in LJ to make it 2nd and 5 or so.

I had that faith in Charles that it could get to 2nd and 5... even if he didn't get it to that point. At least he seemed to be trying to make it happen. I didn't get that with LJ.